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Old 08-01-2014, 10:14 PM
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Question on the 1864 after running I idle down and let run for a few moments the shut off. It wants to continue running even with the key in the off position we call it dieseling in my part of the country, any advice on this issue. Also is or was there a gas gauge available for these? thanks in advance..
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:33 PM
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If I read right the 1864 has a Kohler command engine. Proper shutoff procedure for the command engine is to speed it up to at least 1/2 throttle and then shut it off.
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thanks for the insight, but wont it back fire then some of my other kohlers will do that if they are warm.......I will try and let ya know. thanks much. Btw...is this a common issue with the command motors?
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Fuel shut-off solenoid probably isn't working right, or the spring is broken or the rubber tip is bad. Pull it out and have a look. I don't recommend shut down above idle.
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Question on the 1864 after running I idle down and let run for a few moments the shut off. It wants to continue running even with the key in the off position we call it dieseling in my part of the country, any advice on this issue. Also is or was there a gas gauge available for these? thanks in advance..
Found this old thread on Yesterday's Tractor that may be a little help. Close to the same issue you are having.

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cg...rdent&th=50046
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Found this old thread on Yesterday's Tractor that may be a little help. Close to the same issue you are having.

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cg...rdent&th=50046
I call bull on that. The fuel solenoid shuts off gas at the base of the emulsion tube. That's where ALL fuel that goes through the carb comes from. It IS NOT just plugging the high speed circuit.
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Got a pic of the fuel solenoid. ...just getting used to the new technology.

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I read somewhere, I think on Lawnsite, to never shut down a Command at idle. It can even cause damage to the engine, that is what I read anyway. I have always shutdown my 1863 at a fast idle and it never backfires. Just my experience.
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Question on the 1864 after running I idle down and let run for a few moments the shut off. It wants to continue running even with the key in the off position we call it dieseling in my part of the country, any advice on this issue. Also is or was there a gas gauge available for these? thanks in advance..
I have a Cub Cadet M60 Tank with a 25 Kohler Command for going on 12 years now. It will do the same thing, diesel if turned off at idle, and backfire out the exhaust if turned off at mid throttle. I was told back when it was new to always let it run at full throttle for a few minutes after mowing (to cool down not under load) then turn it off still at full throttle. It always shuts off without dieseling or backfiring, and does not flood as you do not smell un-burnt gas and it will fire right back up. I do the same on my 2084 and my 2284 with no issues. I know it goes against what a person thinks is proper, but that is what is recommended by CC and it works. Providing the solenoid is working properly, this should work.
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If that's how you shut down the command it certainly goes against everything that I have learned over the years . With that said I have never owned a command either. I am still getting used to the seat pressure switch. It might get by passes. Lol
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