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Old 08-26-2014, 03:11 PM
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Default 128 Starter keeps on starting
Ive got a new problem that has me stumped.
I fueled up my 128 to mow the back yard and I restarted it.
The starter/generator stayed as a starter and the battery wire to the V/R started smoking. I disconnected it before it did any damage.
I replaced the V/R and now when ever I put the battery wire on the post, my starter turns over even if the key is in the off position.
I suspect a direct short inside the S/G.
Any suggestions before I start disassembling S/G
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Old 08-26-2014, 03:46 PM
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Check the starter solenoid.
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Old 08-26-2014, 04:05 PM
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I had that same problem on my 128. It reportedly had set for about 4-5 years UNDER a deck!!! Things were kinda stuck and I had a lot of cleaning to do. When I finally got around to re-installing the engine, every time I touched the positive cable to the battery, the engine turned over.

After thoroughty tracing all the wiring to it's supposed/stated ends, I tapped on the voltage regulator and the sparks didn't fly anymore!!!

After setting for so long, the points(which set?) inside the regulator had apparently stuck/corroded together. I didn't use a BFH and lots of muscle, I gently tapped the unit with a small ballpein hammer and that did the job.

Give it a try. It may be the problem.

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Old 08-27-2014, 01:44 PM
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Sounds like you have the wrong voltage regulator on it.

I don't have all of the information here with me but I believe if you remove the blue wire from the v/r it will stop doing that.
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:02 PM
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The starter solenoid is NOT the "electrical bridge" between the s/g and battery.

Go see OCC member Old Iron's write up on this matter.
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Old 08-27-2014, 03:35 PM
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When he said:

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.....when ever I put the battery wire on the post, my starter turns over.....
I took that to mean the wire running from the stater solenoid to the S/G. Perhaps I misunderstood.

No one here was saying that the solenoid is the "bridge". However, it is..... when you are starting the machine. Just not when it is charging the machine.


To the OP:
Perhaps a little clarity is in order as to which wire you are referring to as the "problematic" one.
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:43 PM
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The problematic wire is the wire that goes to battery post of the v/r. Even if I have the key out of the ignition, when I touch the wire to the terminal the s/g try's starting.

I'm thinking there is a short in the s/g.

If I keep the battery wire off of the v/r and the battery has enough juice, I can turn the key and the motor will start like normal, but the battery won't charge.

This is what leads me to believe it's a direct short in the s/g.

My other option is the ignition switch. I will get out my multi meter tomorrow and start chasing.

My buddy gave me his spare s/g to check against mine.

If all else fails I will track down someone in southern york county that rebuilds generators and pay them a visit. Any suggestions ??
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By what you're describing it really sounds to me that your voltage regulator is causing this. I know that you said you replaced it for the same problem but are you sure about the wiring being in the correct locations and the new regulator is correct?
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Old 08-28-2014, 01:24 AM
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Did you replace the regulator with a used one, or new?
If used, did it come off a cub cadet, or was it just one that "looked the same"?
Are you sure you wired it correctly?

It's really pretty simple to test the components. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes.

Here is a link to the chassis manual for your machine:http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=4644

Here is a link to the wiring diagram for your machine:http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22
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By what you're describing it really sounds to me that your voltage regulator is causing this. I know that you said you replaced it for the same problem but are you sure about the wiring being in the correct locations and the new regulator is correct?
I agree. Had the same problem with a 129 that I was working on. Come to find out, I had the wire for the back lights jack on the regulator. Once I changed it around, problem solved. The ends look the same if it has a slider tabs on your regulator and this mistake is easily made if your wires are dirty and hard to distinguish.

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