Cub Cadet 2182

1574trap · #1 04-23-2015, 11:13 AM

the starter solenoid needs replacing on my 2182 it usually takes several attempts to get the starter to engage ect. bought a solenoid and started the installation and soon realized this might not be the simple job it appeared at first. would like to hear from someone that has actually replaced the starter solenoid on a 2182 on how they did it. is I advisable to replace the starter and solenoid when a clicking starter is encountered? I have made a quick check on this job and stopped when I encounter -- "pull the engine enough to lift it and tilt it on side for access to starter." this is beginning to look like a major repair instead to removing a couple Phillips head screws ect.
1574trap
after making this request I did a quick check in the tech library section -- that appears to be much larger than my check. the starter info posted is for a diesel engine Kubota and is different than the gas engine starter on my 2182. still want to hear from some one that has replaced the starter solenoid on the gas engine model.

Diesel Krazy · #2 04-23-2015, 11:25 AM

Your starter solenoid may be good many times the clicking solenoid is caused low voltage through the keyswitch to the solenoid. It could be your keyswitch not providing good 12v to the solenoid. Many people install another relay triggered by the original wire to provide good voltage to the solenoid. I had your same issue with my 882 and the extra relay fixed it.

cub123 · #3 04-23-2015, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 1574trap

the starter solenoid needs replacing on my 2182 it usually takes several attempts to get the starter to engage ect. bought a solenoid and started the installation and soon realized this might not be the simple job it appeared at first. would like to hear from someone that has actually replaced the starter solenoid on a 2182 on how they did it. is I advisable to replace the starter and solenoid when a clicking starter is encountered? I have made a quick check on this job and stopped when I encounter -- "pull the engine enough to lift it and tilt it on side for access to starter." this is beginning to look like a major repair instead to removing a couple Phillips head screws ect.
1574trap
after making this request I did a quick check in the tech library section -- that appears to be much larger than my check. the starter info posted is for a diesel engine Kubota and is different than the gas engine starter on my 2182. still want to hear from some one that has replaced the starter solenoid on the gas engine model.

As far as I know the diesel and gas setup is the same

You shouldn't have to unbolt the engine at all to get at the starter, could you post a pic of the engine in your tractor?

1574trap · #4 04-23-2015, 11:51 AM

thanks for the reply. I have owned this machine for several years and this symptom was present when I bought it. I replaced the key switch soon after purchase. did not help. the battery terminals are new --- copper. the interlocks on this machine are a pit of trouble. the previous owner bypassed all interlocks from what I see. even at that I had a nightmare one year getting it started and all that trouble was battery cable related. this machine has a little less than 400 hours and has not been abused. the starter issue is its only known problem at present. I will check the voltage on the solenoid when attempting to start. if your advise is for the diesel model engine the gas engine has a starter mounted solenoid instead of a "ford" type remote solenoid and your cure may not apply to the gas engine model starter. again thanks for the reply

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Sam Mac · #5 04-23-2015, 12:01 PM

I have 2 of these critters. I had the starter out of the last one and from what I've seen they are a PITA to remove in the tractor. I had the engine out of the frame and even at that they only way I could get the starter out was to remove the motor mount. The back of the engine has a plate that circles the nose of the starter making removal impossible as far as I could see. I cut part of it away before I put the engine back in the tractor so that it will come out in the future.

I'd try the relay, there is a relay update for the 2182's because of a voltage issue at the starter, I'll see if I can dig it up for you.

Edit: Found the relay update, it's a 1.8MB PDF so if you want it PM me with your e-mail address and I'll e-mail it to you.

Sam Mac · #6 04-23-2015, 12:32 PM

The area between the 2 red lines is what I removed to make future starter removal easier.

cub123 · #7 04-23-2015, 04:15 PM

Good thing Sam is here

I didn't know they were such a pain to get off.

1574trap · #8 04-23-2015, 04:56 PM

sam mac ----- appreciate the reply. please send me the email on the relay issue. my problem is strange as Japanese built starters are usually top drawer and not noted for problems. the post you made is appreciated as the illustration shows the difficulty in removing this starter. I hope it is a low voltage issue that can be solved without replacing the starter solenoid. my starter I made like the one in your post ---- starter mounted solenoid. I am thinking this may be a low voltage issue as it has been going on long enough if the solenoid had issues it would not work at all. will send you a note with my email address

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Sam Mac · #9 04-23-2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 1574trap

sam mac ----- appreciate the reply. please send me the email on the relay issue. my problem is strange as Japanese built starters are usually top drawer and not noted for problems. the post you made is appreciated as the illustration shows the difficulty in removing this starter. I hope it is a low voltage issue that can be solved without replacing the starter solenoid. my starter I made like the one in your post ---- starter mounted solenoid. I am thinking this may be a low voltage issue as it has been going on long enough if the solenoid had issues it would not work at all. will send you a note with my email address

1574trap

I have one that I need to do the relay thing on, most of the time it fires up no problem but every once in a while all I get is a click. The relay is a simple deal, it's a normally open contact, it get's power from the cable to the starter and it supply's power to the solenoid when energized. The wire that normally supply's power to the starter solenoid is used to energize the relay.

raytasch · #10 04-23-2015, 06:08 PM

I have a later model 2182 that has a relay in the starter circuit. The machine is new to me so the relay may or may not be a modification. When I was refurbishing the machine, I had an intermittent no start condition show up. A tap on the relay would always get it going. I replaced the relay, standard Bosch relay, available at any auto parts store for a few $$. She starts right now, every time.