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Old 02-09-2017, 08:07 PM
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Default Whats the purpose of this relay switch ?

Does anybody know the purpose of this relay? [Cub Cadet part # 925-1375 description “relay”]. It has gone bad on my 1863 garden tractor, and instead of replacing it I am thinking about just using a jumper with a toggle switch to bypass it all together. Clutch and PTO seems to work fine when I jump these wires. Also this is a Model: 144-664-100. I use this tractor for snow blowing. I believe this relay is preventing the electric clutch from engaging the PTO and preventing the snow blower from engaging, Works fine when I jump/or bypass it. Thanks much for your thoughts.
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:27 AM
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You have an electrical issue. No way you have concluded a relay is bad if you don't even know what it does.

Would you like a copy of the chassis manual with a wiring diagram?
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Old 02-10-2017, 05:42 AM
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First, welcome to OCC.......

Next, the model of Tractor you have is a 1863.

The relay is part of the "safety features" to ensure the proper functioning of the Electric PTO with the operator's safety in mind. There are two other electrical switches that have an impact when this relay engages or not. Thus, just because the relay does not engage does NOT mean it is bad.

Lastly, we (OCC Forum) can/will NOT advise you to bypass a OEM Safety Feature.

Now if you want help figuring your problem out, please say so.
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Old 02-10-2017, 07:21 AM
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First, welcome to OCC.......

Lastly, we (OCC Forum) can/will NOT advise you to bypass a OEM Safety Feature.
Welcome. Its worth taking a more careful look. As stated, it is very possible (and common even) that the relay is not the problem. I recommend you chase the safety switches to be sure they are functioning - it is simple to do. If a wire came off one of those you wouldnt be able to engage the PTO and could be a simple fix without needing to wait for a part.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:03 AM
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Wiring diagram would be great. Thanks for your help. Jeff
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:09 AM
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The two kill switches I found, the seat and ignition switch, both work fine. What is the third switch? Thanks to all of you for responding.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:23 AM
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Reverse switch.

How are you testing the switches?
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:53 AM
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There are 3 switches that impact the Reverse Relay. (1) PTO Switch, (2) Seat Switch, and (3) The Reverse Switch.
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:40 PM
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Never thought about reverse. You guys really know your stuff. My neighbors the electrician he was using either a voltage meter or a multimeter. I will check that switch out and let you know how it goes. Thanks again.
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Old 02-10-2017, 04:39 PM
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In the order of failure (most likely), here is what we see:

(1) the Seat Switch
(2) the Reverse Switch
(3) the PTO Switch
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