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Old 10-03-2011, 07:21 PM
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Default 42" deck on 1450 throwing drive belt

I have the 3/8" x 81" belt installed. With the adjusting bolt backed all the way out, I have 4" of clearance where the manual says I should have 3-1/2".
The belt is installed with the bevel side into all pulleys from the pto to the drive pulley on the deck. I'm engaging the mow @ 800 rpms, I hear a load bang and the belt is off the adjustment pulley, (right side as you face the tractor). This has happened 3 times in a row. The belt is between the adjustment pulley and the arm on the right side that the pulley bolts to. I assume I need a longer belt to obtain the 3 & 1/2" clearance between the frame and the center of the pulley on the left? When the belt is installed, the drive pulley on the deck looks to be lower in the front, but the deck is level. Both pulleys on the mule drive are the same size, (both in diameter and the bevel for the belt). I'll get pics tomorrow and post.
I'm at wits end and about to put the 50" deck back on, stripped yard and all.
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Old 10-04-2011, 03:16 PM
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Here's pics of the belt routing and pulleys:
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File Type: jpg Belt 1.jpg (26.4 KB, 138 views)
File Type: jpg Belt 2.jpg (26.1 KB, 136 views)
File Type: jpg Belt 3.jpg (17.2 KB, 135 views)
File Type: jpg Drive pulley 1.jpg (20.8 KB, 135 views)
File Type: jpg Drive pulley 2.jpg (15.4 KB, 135 views)
File Type: jpg Mule.jpg (21.6 KB, 135 views)
File Type: jpg Mule pulley 1.jpg (14.2 KB, 134 views)
File Type: jpg Mule pulley 2.jpg (17.1 KB, 133 views)
File Type: jpg PTO.jpg (21.6 KB, 132 views)
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Old 10-04-2011, 03:49 PM
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Is that a cub oem belt?
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:23 PM
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That looks like a Gates green belt, which will work fine, but my question is, what mule drive and carriage are you using? If it's the ones from your 50A, that's the problem.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:07 PM
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On all my decks , the belt goes under the flat brace on the subframe ??

I noticed you the cast nose style deck , mine is the 44A without the cast nose. Not real sure if that makes a difference ???
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:48 AM
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It is a Gates belt. The mule and carriage came with the deck. It's not the mule and carriage for the 50" deck. I'm going to order an 82" belt.
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:11 AM
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Belt routing from manual. This is how I have the belt. My measurement from the center of the pulley with the adjusting spring to the front of the mule drive is 4". Manual states it should be 3 & 1/2". That is why I'm ordering a 6882 Gates belt. 82" long.
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Old 10-05-2011, 09:46 AM
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Looks like the mule drive pulley on the right when you are facing the tractor is bent inwards
a little bit. If its not straight it will throw the belt every time. The older decks used a straight mule drive and the newer decks use an angled mule drive.
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:34 PM
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I'll straighten that up before I install the new, longer belt. Good catch!
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The rod the pulleys slide onto appears to be arched. Is that normal, or should it be straight? (3rd row up from bottom, right side).
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:39 PM
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CD , Looked your pics over some more and i am talking about the brace in the back of the frame , my belts go under that brace. Looks like yours is on top of the brace.

My deck is different than yours , so you might double check.
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