Tear down questions

Mr. Mike · #1 08-30-2015, 06:36 PM

I'm disassembling my first cub...tractor for that matter. There are some pins that hold in a few parts such as the clutch pedal assembly to frame and from pivot bolt. What is the best way to drive these out with out making it more work then needed? And what is a source for replacements?

I've got the stubborn steering wheel soaking on PB Blaster. Then steering can come out, dash, clutch, front end, rear end. Then off to get blasted.

ford4150 · #2 08-30-2015, 08:19 PM

The pins are a little special; their called spirol pins. Some will say you need a set of spirol pin punches. I just use a regular drift punch. I get my replacements on eBay.

Cub Cadet 123 · #3 08-30-2015, 08:48 PM

You could contact Yosemite Sam. He is the rootenest tootenest ornery rascal, but he has an excellent method (tools) that he makes for driving those stubborn pins out!!!

After soaking them in PB Blaster, of course.

Cub Cadet 123

olds45512 · #4 08-30-2015, 08:52 PM

is there a reason your removing the clutch/brake pedal? you need to paint it in the tractor or you'll have to remove all the paint from the shaft to get back in the tractor.

yeeter · #5 08-30-2015, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512

is there a reason your removing the clutch/brake pedal? you need to paint it in the tractor or you'll have to remove all the paint from the shaft to get back in the tractor.

+1 on this. Then once you remove the paint to get the shaft back in, you will have to paint it again in place so it doesn't rust.

As for getting the pins out, a big hammer and large flat punch to get them started. Then a smaller punch to drive them through.

If you start driving the shaft out with a hammer, be careful you don't mushroom the end from hitting it. If that happens it won't come out even once things are free (which btw, even once the pins are out the collars aren't likely to come off easy)

I did two of these recently and a major pain

Paint them in place if possible. $.02

Yosemite Sam · #6 08-31-2015, 01:36 AM

If I can get a any kind of a cutting/grinding tool into where the pin is, I cut them off flat with whatever they go through, then there is no chance of mushrooming them over.

I use pin punches with the little bump on the end, they have always worked well for me.

And yeah, as Cub Cadet 123 said, I make pin punch extensions and spiral pin starters that really work well for these stubborn pins. I almost never hit my hands/fingers with a hammer any more, and I don't mess up new pins when installing them any more either.

Thanks for the plug Maxwell.

BTW, when you put your tractor back together, be sure to use spiral pins and not roll pins. Roll pins break too easy and you'll find yourself replacing them way often.

What model Cub are you working on anyway?

Mr. Mike · #7 08-31-2015, 06:43 AM

Thanks for all the info. I'm working on a 122. The brake/clutch pedel is slightly bent out I shape, so I will be replacing it or straightening it. Thanks for the tip on painting it installed, I didn't think of that.

zimm17 · #8 08-31-2015, 09:49 AM

My advice: Get a box of sandwich and gallon size ziplock bags and a sharpie. Label and bag every batch of hardware. Take lots of pictures of assemblies before you take them apart.

I'm putting my tractor back together and I'm quickly realizing that I should have taken more pictures. It's hard to remember which bolt went where after a few months. At least I have them bagged, so there's only a handful of bolts for each component to figure out.

ravenseye · #9 08-31-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zimm17

My advice: Get a box of sandwich and gallon size ziplock bags and a sharpie. Label and bag every batch of hardware. Take lots of pictures of assemblies before you take them apart.

I'm putting my tractor back together and I'm quickly realizing that I should have taken more pictures. It's hard to remember which bolt went where after a few months. At least I have them bagged, so there's only a handful of bolts for each component to figure out.

I'm getting so forgetful now that I photo, bag and label everything. When I did my bottom plow (which doesn't have many parts at all), I labeled the bag with whatever I wanted to call the part or the assembly, then I photo'd the part with the bag in the picture and then I photo'd the disassembled part(s). It really helps especially if you end up re-assembling after you've had it ripped apart for a while. My kid can tear an engine apart and the put it all back together "remembering" where all those parts originally were. I forget where my ratchet is even before I put it down.

TheSaturnV · #10 08-31-2015, 04:33 PM

Triple down on "tagging and bagging." These things come apart in an afternoon, and the reassembly can be tough if you rely on memory.

As an aside, I removed the pedal/shaft assembly on my 147 so I could apply a thorough paint job. When I replaced the assembly, it went in just fine. Might have scuffed the paint some, but no trouble at all.

Here's my restoration series on youtube, somewhere around video #2 or 3 you can see how I had to knock the pins out with a big friggin' hammer and a torch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FhmC8Mk9Lw