2182 mower deck /belt issues

[stevescub]

New owner of a cc2182 and no time to play mechanic now that i drive alot for work and weekends only free time. I know I have alot info in post GUYS, but figured provide as much info possible upfront.

For anyone; esp Senior CC owners, since some have done alot with SGTs and 2182 particularly. What is needed to keep mower deck belt from slipping on 2182cc, 1993 year with yellow haban 60" - currently using a gates b93 belt = 96", which PO had on it. Almost think a shorter belt- gates b92=95", since by time belt is kept taunt (esp engaged PTO), its places idler pulleys up against front frame and belt appears rubs frame. In heavy grass i have to go slow and my son on a jd L-130 w/48" zooms around me. Defeated my purpose of buying unit when I thought it would cut right along and wider swath. What insights do you have? Thank you in advance.

FIRST time to post pics>>>

Here's pics of mule drive -belt setup. In one pic see Belt comes around main pulley; there's a black bar- lazy "S" just under main pulley and between belt.
One of pics shows inside of front frame where someone has ground out area for belt not to be rubbed by frame.

Current pics can't show belt in current tension setting allows belt to rub against a yellow "spring" bar just inside/backside of front frame.

Notice black mark on right side of image- indicates to me belt rubbing.

Prior PO said he added a spring (seen in one of Pics) on left side of image to keep that idler pulley from being pulled back when PTO engaged, thus allowed belt slippeage which he felt solved that dilemma. Prior PO also said this stopped belt from wearing out prematurely.
Pulleys all roll freely, no rust inside valley of pulleys. All zerks take on grease. Main spring appears to have alot of tension?? Looking at front of unit- Based on Moving left side hand pulley release bar requires some effort after other side idler pulley threaded in full loose position. What is proper tension? What should belt do or not do when PTO engaged? Without spring added by prior PO belt slaps alot.

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[stevescub]

HELP me someone.
Well, guys I tried a B92 belt and alignment of mule pulleys better, no belt rubbing inside of front frame and left hand release bar could be set as MFg rec. alignment. No belt wobble. Thought I had it,,, But only made 1/2acre before infamous belt sounds told me belt issues. Drive belt seems to get off track such v-belt portion turns sideways at some point. Well, reset it and was only short distance and mower belt kicked off, and drive belt now chewed up and off track also again.

[Tacosteelersman]

Is the V of the belt riding all the way in the groove of the deck drive pully? Deck pully could be too tight for the belt to ride inside of it like it should. Do you have any deck drive pully pics with belt on?

[ccpullin]

Originally Posted by stevescub

HELP me someone.
Well, guys I tried a B92 belt and alignment of mule pulleys better, no belt rubbing inside of front frame and left hand release bar could be set as MFg rec. alignment. No belt wobble. Thought I had it,,, But only made 1/2acre before infamous belt sounds told me belt issues. Drive belt seems to get off track such v-belt portion turns sideways at some point. Well, reset it and was only short distance and mower belt kicked off, and drive belt now chewed up and off track also again.

I have used Super's for years and presently have 8 2182's. My experience has been don't run B section belts, but rather a kevlar lawn mower type belt or OE belt. B section belts do not like twisting or ran though back idlers and will get very hot in a short period of time, then start flapping making them rub on anything close to it. Also check the idler spring tension as it should be tough to push in on the idler link to lock it, and should not need a helper spring. Also make sure both idler brackets swing free and do not bind on the cross shaft. I have seen many of these cross shafts bent not allowing the idler brackets to swing free thus not allowing the tension spring to work. You may have to remove the mule drive, carefully remove the cross shaft because of the spring tension and check to see if it is bent, then clean/lube the shaft. Some of these idler brackets have grease zerts also so check for that and lube first.

[stevescub]

When too tight it choked down engine and won't engage. So, i loosened right side tension bolt and found spot where belt followed in pulleys. Also, with B92 v-belt it allowed for idler pulleys to stay away from front frame and idler handle aligns as MFG rec. and belt didn't rub back side of front frame. I have been able to get belt to set up correct with v-portion riding in groove, but doesn't stay there.

[stevescub]

What belt number for a kevlar belt from what supplier(s) and how to /where cross reference? I obtained two belts at Oreillys/ and NAPA stores based on PO using - Gates v-belt B92/93, but looking on site for cross match not successful. I tried v-belts.com , no luck finding match using whats in my manual for belt 754-3051 for 60" deck. From my short time troubleshooting it appears 95" is about right for idler brackets to keep belt away from frame. Local Cub dealer wants $50+ for OEM belt, which PO said made no difference for him as to how long belt survived. I have only used gates B since that is what PO said used and how he made unit work, so said. I'm finding it didn't. The helper spring keeps left idler arm somewhat from being pulled back when under load, but still apparently pulls back and allows belt to jump/slip.
When checking for free swing of idler brackets, I presume that is with no belt and no tension on idler pulleys. This unit has zerks, which i have twice in couple months greased and grease does flow out, my hands rubbed into it today working with unit.

If Mule drive tension spring bar is bent how to fix and/or obtain replacement? How to find part number for tension spring bar and/ or springs. I have tried searching web some but not found source for either, especially since don't know part numbers and not been able to find any Part#'s.

It does take some effort to push back idler handle.

thank you guys for input.

[ccpullin]

Steve, Sent you a PM!

[stevescub]

Well, I typed a reply message, but it disappeared, or went to some other place. I thought i had made response to tail of this thread. I have bought for $20 a JASON Brand, KEVLAR V-belt from Rural King, which is MKV5-950 = 5/8" x 95". The mule drive idler pulleys upright or slight back. I cut entire 1.3 acres without any signs of wear on mower drive belt; without helper spring added by PO. Thank you guys.

Now to mower deck wheels replacement, next order of business. Going to Make use of SamMac's ideas- some parts are available, still others not; so i think from TSC can get wheels to work. I have 20 minutes away a local bearings store for sleeve bearing bushings.

[Sam Mac]

Post a pic of your deck. The wheels I listed are for the early Habans.

[stevescub]

heres pics of front and rear units. 8" x 2.5 and 6" x 3 with 1/2" bolt as axle. Front are worn down and rear is separating esp right. Just happen to have taken some.