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Old 07-01-2018, 01:20 PM
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First of all, I know the aluminum rears benefit from the xtreme braces. I’ve seen some suggestions that the rear hitch plate adds some stability by boxing in the rear of the frame but is not a substitute for braces. My 1912 is one that doesn’t have the hitch plate and has the hitch bolted to the transmission and this got me to thinking, as far as weight distribution if I have a heavily loaded trailer, which is better?

A hitch mounted to the rear would put all the weight on the back of the transmission and not on the 4 long bolts ( and two front ones) that go through the frame.

A hitch plate would put all the weight on the frame and on those four bolts, but would help some with the frame twisting by stabilizing the rear of the frame.

So, the question is which is better?
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Old 07-01-2018, 02:24 PM
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It's better to use the tractor to pull things it was intended for. If you have trailer with a heavy enough tongue weight to cause issues with the tractor, hook it to a pickup.

Why all these people think they need to pull small flatbet trailers intended to be pulled with pickups is beyond me. I have like 3 yard carts. Never needed anything bigger pulled with my Cub. Oh, we used to use the CC to move wagons and stuff around on the farm.... but they were 4 wheel wagons. I even made up a "big" two wheel cart for the Cub for when we were cutting wood, but it wasn't big enough for the weight to be an issue.

Sorner, get the rear end braces and use the hitch on the trans. Those rear hitches bolted to the frame don't make a hill of beans difference in frame support. If you had 3pt you would be using the same exact set up as the frame mounted plate hitch, so whatever you think you need. I don't think it makes a nickles worth of difference.
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Old 07-01-2018, 02:34 PM
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Well ok, but I think you missed my question entirely. Why did the older ones not have a hitch plate and the newer ones do? I would think the weight distribution would be a lot different between the two, and I was wondering which tend to break the aluminum parts more frequently. The question wasn’t that I am planning to move a mobile home with it. I have a small trailer that would have no more than 200-300lb tongue weight and a small pop up camper that I move occasionally. That’s it. Both I can lift myself at the tongue. I know the braces are the way to go.
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The rear hitch that was bolted to the frame wasn't standard until the cyclops tractors. No idea why, other than they called it a "bagger plate". Perhaps it was just standard so that a bagger could be added directly. The cyclops was the first GT offered with a bagger system by CCC, so it makes sense.

Like I said, it doesn't seem to make a nickels worth of difference as to which one is "better", or easier on the rear. Personally I prefer a hitch bolted to the rear end.
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