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05-08-2025, 07:14 AM
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Picked up a Cub 1641 for a backup
Hello all... it's been a while since I've been active on here, or with Cubs in general. Last summer I picked up an 1872 and 1862, and both are down currently. The 1872 has a driveline issue, and it ate up the bearing on the input shaft which in turn ate into the input shaft itself and started leaking transmission oil. It's been leaking and I finally had time to dig into it a little bit, and that's going to be an expensive fix, so it's down for now. The 1862 has a charging issue, likely the flywheel magnets need re-glued, which means engine pull and tear down to get into that. I just don't have time for this stuff right now, with kids growing up, and I got roped into coaching soccer for U10 this year and I never played soccer or had an interest in it myself, but my little boy who is now 9 took an interest in it. It's been good for me though because I've been getting more exercise and trimmed about 15lbs off my gut in just two months.
 But I need to get to the point of all this... I went looking for a cheap backup mower to fill the gaps, because apparently two was not enough. I came across a really good condition 1641 with a 48" GT deck. It even has good plastic! I've had these before so I have familiarity with it. It has 1100 hours, and I will be going over it changing fluids, filters, etc. It runs fantastic and starts up instantly. However... it has this issue after I open the throttle up it will start blowing heavy smoke (definitely oil) and I can see it is moist in the muffler exit for about 1-2 minutes. It starts out strong and then fades. Almost like it's sucking oil in through the breather. If I let it just idle it does not smoke, until I open the throttle. If it's a crankcase breather issue I would think that would be smoking all the time. I don't think 1100 hours is too bad for a well maintained vanguard engine. The engine bay and engine is completely spotless. No leaking anywhere. No grass clippings, dirt, etc. So, any ideas of what to look for? I can do a compression/leakdown test on it, but my (now smaller) gut tells me it's not rings or compression related.
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05-09-2025, 06:16 PM
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Are the seals on the crank leaking? Oil level?
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05-22-2025, 12:32 PM
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Seals are good. I'm thinking it's an internal head gasket failure. I've noticed if I start the engine and leave it idle for a while it does not smoke. It's when I throttle it up that it smokes and then gradually goes away. The oil goes down with the smoke, but I do not see any oil coming out of the engine anywhere. The muffler outlet gets wet with oil too while it's smoking and dries up when it stops. I mowed with it until the deck belt broke three laps in, and it does not smoke more under load.
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1872 with 50C deck 1862 with 50C deck 1641 with 48GT deck 364 snow blower IH Cub Original with deck GREEN 317 with integral sleeve hitch, front hydraulic
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