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Old 07-12-2018, 10:14 AM
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I'm working through problems why my 682 won't turns over but won't start. One reason may be the ignition switch and connector was a corroded and molten mess. I've got that fixed and am now doing electrical continuity tests. My question is on the seat switch. The wiring diagram says the switch is 'Normally Open' which to my mind means when the tractor is running and used, the seat is down (and switch plunger is down) there is no continuity between the Blue and Violet/White wires. In my case I have continuity when the seat is down and no continuity when the seat is up. Am I misunderstanding what is meant by Normally Open, or perhaps I have the wrong switch?
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Normally open, means the switch contacts are open when the button isn't pressed. Your switch works as it should. The seat switch is not used unless the PTO is on. Better study the diagram some more.
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I'm working through problems why my 682 won't turns over but won't start. One reason may be the ignition switch and connector was a corroded and molten mess. I've got that fixed and am now doing electrical continuity tests. My question is on the seat switch. The wiring diagram says the switch is 'Normally Open' which to my mind means when the tractor is running and used, the seat is down (and switch plunger is down) there is no continuity between the Blue and Violet/White wires. In my case I have continuity when the seat is down and no continuity when the seat is up. Am I misunderstanding what is meant by Normally Open, or perhaps I have the wrong switch?
Normally open or normally closed means untouched/ unactivated/at rest,
or,as built by manufacture, not as installed.
As for ignition switches, they are a common problem as the
spades/ connectors
corrode, making no contact or when they do, arc and get hot melting the plug as you have seen.
Do make sure both male/female connectors are clean making good contact.
Better yet, replace them, they are available inexpensively from ebay suppliers if you have not already.
Trust us, they are a problem area.
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The Seat Switch is NOT used in a normal starting of the engine.

The Seat Switch is used when the PTO is engaged. If you get off the tractor while the PTO is running, it will stop the engine.
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The Seat Switch is NOT used in a normal starting of the engine.

The Seat Switch is used when the PTO is engaged. If you get off the tractor while the PTO is running, it will stop the engine.
Or if a big branch knocks ya off the machine and your hand is not on the hydro lever.. You don't have to run after the tractor
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Or if a big branch knocks ya off the machine and your hand is not on the hydro lever.. You don't have to run after the tractor
Are we speaking from experience....???
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Are we speaking from experience....???
I can't remember... And my head hurts
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The Seat Switch is NOT used in a normal starting of the engine.

The Seat Switch is used when the PTO is engaged. If you get off the tractor while the PTO is running, it will stop the engine.
My grandfather may have rewired some stuff, but my first Cub experience was on an 1811 and when my 50# a$$ left the seat all it did was shut the PTO off. The tractor kept moving.
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My grandfather may have rewired some stuff, but my first Cub experience was on an 1811 and when my 50# a$$ left the seat all it did was shut the PTO off. The tractor kept moving.
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My grandfather may have rewired some stuff, but my first Cub experience was on an 1811 and when my 50# a$$ left the seat all it did was shut the PTO off. The tractor kept moving.
The later MTD built '82 series, and on, had a PTO relay. The safety system was no longer hooked to the engine ignition. Just the PTO. Later though, they went back to the ignition style safety switches. (Not sure when they changed back. You know the machines though.... the ones you have to set the brake on before dismounting or they shut off. ) Guess too many people were falling off the machine and it would keep going.
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