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Old 11-30-2014, 09:53 PM
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Default Removing Broken Pin from Implement Lift

On my 125, I have a broken pin for the release rod (push button for implement lift) and I wonder how I can get it off?

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Below is a picture of the spare release pin I plan to replace the broken one. The red arrow points where the old pin has broken off. The part of the push pin to the left is still threaded to the release rod inside the lift handle.

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What I have done so far was to remove the ratchet from the implement lift assembly in hopes that I may be able to push up the lift rod enough to grip the broken pin and unthread it from the release rod. It pushes up just barely enough to just about reach the top of the handle tube. I can grip it with long nose vise grip but not a regular vise grip or pliers. The long nose pliers (vise-grip) is too springy and doesn't hold so good when I try to unthread the broken pin. Very close but no dice!

Has anybody any ideas or suggestions? Hopefully, someone here has been down this road before! Thanks for looking and any help is much appreciated!
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:25 PM
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In situations like this I have had good luck building up the end of a bolt with weld (NOT mig) until I can grab it with regular vise-grips. I say not mig because it doesn't burn hot enough at the very start to get a good weld and will break off right at the start of the weld most of the time. I usually use a torch, but I have had good luck with a stick welder too. Just add to the stem until it sticks up a 1/2" or so above the tube. Be sure to pull the rubber grip off before you start or you may melt it.
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I say not mig because it doesn't burn hot enough at the very start to get a good weld and will break off right at the start of the weld most of the time.
You must not have used a MIG much. It will work fine.
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I use migs for sheetmetal a lot, but I haven't had good luck in this type of situation. I have to remove a lot of bolts from 1/4" - 1/2" that are broken off well below the surface of a cast iron part and the wire can touch a thread above the bolt where a stick won't arc as easily. In this case a mig will probably work ok.
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I use migs for sheetmetal a lot, but I haven't had good luck in this type of situation. I have to remove a lot of bolts from 1/4" - 1/2" that are broken off well below the surface of a cast iron part and the wire can touch a thread above the bolt where a stick won't arc as easily. In this case a mig will probably work ok.
I get broken bolts out all the time with a MIG. Never have an issue, or bad luck.

Guess I'm just arguing here for no real reason. Point I'm trying to make is, if you know how to use a MIG, you will seldom pick up an arc welder. Both welders have their place. Just like all tools. I'll bow out. I really wasn't trying to debate.
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Guess I'm just arguing here for no real reason. Point I'm trying to make is, if you know how to use a MIG, you will seldom pick up an arc welder. Both welders have their place. Just like all tools. I'll bow out. I really wasn't trying to debate.
Me neither. Sorry, I guess it did look like it I was though. I was just trying to point out my past experience.
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I got the broken pin out!

Broken Implement Lift Pin for 125 (Removed).jpg

With my welder being over 100 miles away, I needed to resort to a different method. I went to Home Depot and bought a cheap one-dollar-fifty-cent 1/4 drive Husky socket and grinded out something of a toothy end like we see on a spanner wrench. Note how the points were grinded leaving the beefy teeth.

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I then drilled a couple of sloppy "holes" on both sides of the broken lift release push button pin for something that my homemade spanner socket teeth can sink into and grab the part. It's sloppy because it was awkward to get started in the small and tight space on the "edge" of the pin. I started out with 1/8 inch drill bit and moved up to 3/16 drill bit.

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It came out with little effort! It was cheap and took about 10 minutes to do once I got home from the store.

The whole lot of you provided me some great ideas and it sure did help lead me into this method..... I really appreciate the help. Thank You!
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Great idea! Good job
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I'm gonna remember this idea. Way to go!
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Billy-O is a thinker... He's gonna fit in here just fine!
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