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11-18-2018, 04:24 PM
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IHC cast hydro into 1864?
Hey guys, new to the site but not necessarily new to cub cadet tractors. This might be on the site somewhere but I've been unable to find. How many issues will I run into swapping a 169 hydro transaxle into an 1864? I have a 169 that I've had for years and an 1864 that I gave $200 for on Craigs List last summer (supposedly non-running). Turned out all the 1864 needed was a head gasket and ignition switch.
Many years back I built a cat O 3-point with a 3X6 inch lift cyl. for the 169 that bolts on as a unit in place of the rear trans cover. I'd like to thin the herd a little and the 1864 runs smoother, is quieter, has more power and power steering. But I don't believe the aluminum transaxle in the 1864 is up to the task of handling my 3-point hitch tiller (36 inch FMC w/ its own 18 hp engine). I'd estimate the tiller to weigh +/- 400 lbs. I have to put about 240 lbs ballast on the front of the 169 when its mounted to make it manageable. Will the charge pump in the 169 handle the power steering in the1864 chassis? Not too worried about driveshaft, have access to mill and lathe, can make anything. Linkage issues??? (haven't taken covers off to compare side by side) Thoughts??? 
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11-18-2018, 05:24 PM
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I don't know if it will fit or not, but you might not want to part out a 169 since they are a rare model.
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#3
11-18-2018, 05:45 PM
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The aluminum rears with rear braces would handle the stress. There are plenty of cast rears out there without parting a 169. Just sell it and buy your parts.
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11-18-2018, 07:21 PM
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#5
11-18-2018, 08:39 PM
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The 169 is no beauty queen, can't honestly remember how I ended up with it. been 20 years or more. I know it had no engine at the time and the one I have in it is made up of old left over pulling motor parts (billet rod, forged pop-up piston/mated head and some other odds and ends that were laying around).
So you think that 1864 rear would handle the weight? I mean really, with 240 extra lbs clear out on the front of the tractor it just barely keeps the front on the ground. This tiller is REALLY heavy.
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11-18-2018, 08:56 PM
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The aluminum rear has a stronger carrier and axle shafts.... put a set of the Xtreem Motorworks braces on the 1864 and you will have no problems.. way easier than swapping rears.. Don't be scared of the aluminum rears.. they are OK once you brace them back to the frame
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11-18-2018, 10:20 PM
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