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12-28-2023, 05:44 PM
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CC 3165 Hydraulic oil info
Guys, I have a CC 3165 (1998-1999 model year) that I picked up second hand. From what I understand, it is BDU-21L transmission. I need to fix a slow leak in the transmission so, I am going to wind up draining it, fixing it and then I will want to refill it with fresh. So, I am not paying $20 plus per quart for the recommended CC stuff. It is 25 years old and has 430 hours on it. I don't want to do something that will trash it, but I am not paying $100 to refill it with CC fluid either. I am looking at mostly summer time (Wisconsin) use at this point. When I picked up the mower, the original owner actually had to add fluid just to get it to move since it had mostly leaked out. He put in a quart of regular ATF oil and said "it is the same thing". I think he had been using that for a while.
So, I have asked some on other forums and gotten responses like Shell Rotella 15W40 diesel oil to 10W30 regular automotive oil, to ATF fluid and others. This is for the Hydrostatic transmission in the 3165 which also runs the power steering and deck lift from what I understand. This is not for the motor. So, are these all valid replacements for the factory recommended CC fluid? Unless I am told otherwise, I will probably go with the Shell Rotella 15W40 Synthetic diesel oil. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Rot...sRedirect=true Is this also an option? https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...lic-fluid.html What about just regular ATF: https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...ion-fluid.html What do you guys think of those three options? Am I making a mistake with either one? Do you have a preference? Thanks for you help. Bruce 
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12-28-2023, 07:54 PM
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OK, How about the second product that I posted above? It says: "Meets Case / IH (HYTRAN B-6) requirements".
https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...lic-fluid.html Or can you post a link to a source for the stuff you use?
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#4
12-28-2023, 08:07 PM
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From the service manual:
https://www.hydro-gear.com/wp-conten...N-50327_P6.pdf Fluids The fluids used in HYDRO-GEAR products have been carefully selected, and only equivalent, or better products should be substituted. Typically, an engine oil with a minimum rating of 9.0 cSt (55 SUS) at 230°F (110°C) and an API classification of SJ/ CD is recommended. A 20W-50 engine oil has been selected for use by the factory and is recommended for normal operating temperatures. For colder climate operation (see chart), a change to a 10w-40 engine oil may be necessary. Another alternative that will provide excellent all climate performance and extended time between oil changes is a 15W-50 synthetic engine oil
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12-28-2023, 08:18 PM
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I use a synthetic in my hydro never had a problem Oz
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12-28-2023, 08:51 PM
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Do not use Hy-Tran in the 3k series.
Rotella is what a lot of people use. I've used it in a bunch of my 3k machines and never had an issue. What's leaking on your machine? The bad.... I'm a big 3k fan but these machines always leak oil!  O rings & axle seals are always an issue.The good.... Depending on which deck you have, no other Cub Cadet will give as good of a cut as these machines do. 
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01-07-2024, 09:17 PM
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I've used the f&f stuff in several cub rears without issue. I've also used 5w30 diesel engine oil in them. I had a case 621 we were dumping gallons of hi tran in every week, finally got a case mobile guy to come over and fix it. When he was done he was filling it up with 15/40. He said that's all they ever use at the dealership.
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01-07-2024, 09:30 PM
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When I get around to it this spring, I will be going with 10W40 or 15W40. Probably Rotella 15W40 full Synthetic.
Thanks to everyone who lent opinions and advice. I will try very hard to remember to come back and report how things go once I get the trans welded up and refilled.
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01-07-2024, 10:33 PM
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Yours is an oddball...the F&F stuff is good for the garden tractors where Hy-Tran is the spec oil.
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