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Old 07-03-2014, 12:23 PM
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Hey guys, I have an electrical issue I need some guidance on. I went to run the tractor for the first time this year and found that the battery was dead. I put the charger on the battery and after an hour or so, got the tractor to fire up. After a little warm up time, I started mowing. When I engaged the pto, the ammeter showed a discharge of the battery. I continued to mow for about 15 minutes and then shut off the pto, to get off the mower without cutting my toes off. When i got back on, the PTO would not engage and the ammeter was still showing a slight discharge. I drove it back in the garage and shut it down. I tried starting a little later and couldn't even get a click. So i am pretty sure that the battery is shot, but would this cause the PTO to not start up as well? I haven't had time to do any other investigation, but since the engine was running and the ammeter still showed a discharge, i am thinking that there is something more going on. I am going to get a new battery this weekend, but past that...how do i debug if I am still showing a discharge?
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:24 PM
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Just a little more information, the seat switch and reverse cut off switch are disabled and have been for many years so we can eliminate those issues.
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:26 PM
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What makes you think the battery is bad? Did you check to see if it was charging when it was running? Dead battery does NOT = bad battery.
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:29 PM
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I just made an assumption...but the battery is 5 years old and when i put the charger on it, the gauge on the charger shows that it is 100% charged but it wont even turn on the headlights. After about 15 minutes of charging the battery will at least make the solenoid click. The ammeter only shows a discharge when running. Even worse when the PTO was running.
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:29 PM
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You either have a bad battery, or V/R, or BOTH.

Get the battery checked out.
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:32 PM
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Thanks Roland. If I have time today i will get a load test on the battery. They are on sale for 20 bucks at fleet farm so I wont be out much if i have to get a new one. Is there a test procedure for the VR?
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YUP...the two Stators wires should have around ~30VAC and the output to the Battery should be ~13.7VDC. This is for a Kohler engine but the principle is the same......... http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=368
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BTW...as a suggestion, if the battery is bad, I would buy the biggest CCA rated battery that will fit into your battery box.
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Put a volt meter on the battery when it's running. At idle it should be at or around 13V. At WOT over 14V. If not, check output at the v-reg. This test is for a Kohler, but it is relatively the same for the Onan. Components vary somewhat.

Edit: Sorry Roland, go ahead. I'm waiting on parts and bored.....
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Thanks for the info. I will try to get this tested over the holiday weekend. I will see what i can find for battery amperages. I think the one that is in there is a 250 amp battery.
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