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Old 03-10-2020, 10:06 AM
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Hello,
Glad to have found such a forum out here in the Wild Wild Internet.

My family has owned a Cub Cadet lawn mower since I was about 5 or 6 and I'm now north of 50 so I have had a long appreciation for them. I kind of wish I still had the one of my youth (1972-ish IH Cub Cadet) but I believe it is in good hands and being restored.

I bought a new 1641 around 1998 or so and its been with me ever since. The old girl has been rock solid for these past 22 years. I have only had to regularly change oil, lube the chassis, and the like. Suffice it to say its been an incredible value.

Last weekend, however, I had my first bit of trouble out of it. First thing that happened is that it would die sometimes when I would kick on the PTO to cut the grass. I initially noticed that happening last summer and it only happened when the engine hadn't completely warmed up. Then recently that became more frequent. Last weekend, however, it went a bit further and sometimes wouldn't turn over to start. Then it would and then it wouldn't. Gradually, it just wouldn't turn over at all. To clarify, "wouldn't turn over to start" means that literally I would turn the key and I would hear the starter engage but the engine did not spin.

At first, I thought it was the battery and then the battery cable. The cable did need replacing but the battery probably didn't (fortunately, it was a free replacement under warrranty).

I ended up popping the side covers and then used a wrench to turn the engine over. It was real hard to turn and then I could feel something give and would suddenly free up and turn. Then I would hit another bad spot and it would be hard again. One thing I noticed as I did this and tried to isolate the issue is that parts of the PTO would move (it was like it was engaging and/or disengaging) at the hard spots and as long as they moved back to a certain position, I could turn it easily. Once it moved again, it was hard to turn over again briefly.

Is it safe to assume that I need to replace the PTO as it feels like something is locking up on the PTO? The engine was running pretty good prior to that happening so I don't feel like its an engine issue.

And, how hard is it to replace? I have not yet looked at it in depth to see how it comes off but I assume its not all that hard and I am very adept and engine repairs.

Thanks in advance!
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