|
PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS!
|
|||||||
 |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
01-22-2017, 10:18 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Cyclops axle on 82 series
Anyone on here used a cyclops "super steer" front axle on an 82 series or similar machine? As I understand it, they steer better, and I think they look a little better too. Any drawbacks to such an upgrade?
|
|
#2
01-22-2017, 10:28 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Some have done it. As far as helping steering, I think that's a myth. I think I've driven an example of about every type of Cub, and the only ones that seem to steer easier are the ones with power steering. There are several improvements you can do to help with it.... but the biggest one is keeping the front end greased. I grease mine about every 15-20 hours. The "super steer" axle was swept forward to help with the installation of the larger GT deck. Outside of that, it doesn't really have any other mechanical advantage to the '82 series axle that I can see. It might have a little longer arm on the spindle.... but not by much.
|
|
#3
01-22-2017, 10:49 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Thanks J-Mech. When I said "steer better" I meant turn sharper. Do they turn a little sharper?
|
|
#4
01-22-2017, 11:00 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
People say so.... but I've not seen any pics or numbers to back that up. Not that I could ever tell driving say and 1864 compared to an 1811..... maybe slightly sharper. Only real difference I have ever noticed was the switch they made about the wide frame tractors, then some more improvements in the 82 series. The old NF tractors don't steer as short as an 82 series by far.
|
|
#5
01-23-2017, 07:44 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
I have converted 3-4 early Cyclops over to the super steer axle. The steering is more responsive, seems to cut quicker and the steering returns to straight ahead more easily. I've changed the axles over on several 1862's W/PS and the improvement in steering is really apparent.
You have the added advantage of being able to use the mule drive with the large pulleys in which the bearins are more durable than the smaller pulleys. Also allows you to use the 48"/54" mower decks which I consider cut considerably better than the older decks.
|
|
#6
01-23-2017, 08:04 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I put a 1440 axle under a 1210. Made it turn much tighter. Down side is that it raised the front about 2". I put a set of smaller OD tires on the front (15X6.50-8) and had to fiddle with the deck to get everything to work correctly.
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck 1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower JD317 dump truck BX2670 with FEL
|
|
#7
01-23-2017, 10:12 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I think the setup for an 82 series would be to use the swept forward axle from the tall super steers but use the early short Cyclops spindles to keep the front end height correct. Drag link/tie rod from the tractor that donated the axle unless your going power steering.
__________________
RUN IN THE RED 782 w/50c deck (red); 782 dual stick, 44c deck (y/w); 1050 w/38c deck; 1864 w/54" GT deck; 1872 project Cub Cadet Pro Z 560 L 42" power angle snowblade, #2 tiller, 2-QA42a snowthrowers, 450 thrower, #2 cart; 54" Haban blade; Brinly box blade, 48" dethatcher, moldboard plow; Agri-Fab sweeper 1200, 1863, 1864 parts machines
|
|
#8
01-23-2017, 11:47 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
One of the reasons I'm thinking of doing the upgrade is because I personally like the way it looks with the front end raised.
|
|
#9
01-24-2017, 04:55 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
I haven't studied the situation too close but I believe the "tall" spindles have a different geometry than the other spindles and that is what is improving the steering. Maybe someone here knows?
|
|
|
|
Cub Cadet is a premium line of outdoor power equipment, established in 1961 as part of International Harvester. During the 1960s, IH initiated an entirely new line of lawn and garden equipment aimed at the owners rural homes with large yards and private gardens. There were a wide variety of Cub Cadet branded and after-market attachments available; including mowers, blades, snow blowers, front loaders, plows, carts, etc. Cub Cadet advertising at that time harped on their thorough testing by "boys - acknowledged by many as the world's worst destructive force!". Cub Cadets became known for their dependability and rugged construction.
MTD Products, Inc. of Cleveland, Ohio purchased the Cub Cadet brand from International Harvester in 1981. Cub Cadet was held as a wholly owned subsidiary for many years following this acquisition, which allowed them to operate independently. Recently, MTD has taken a more aggressive role and integrated Cub Cadet into its other lines of power equipment.
This website and forum are not affiliated with or sponsored by MTD Products Inc, which owns the CUB CADET trademarks. It is not an official MTD Products Inc, website, and MTD Products Inc, is not responsible for any of its content. The official MTD Products Inc, website can be found at: http://www.mtdproducts.com. The information and opinions expressed on this website are the responsibility of the website's owner and/or it's members, and do not represent the opinions of MTD Products Inc. IH, INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER are registered trademark of CNH America LLC
All material, images, and graphics from this site are the property of www.onlycubcadets.net. Any unauthorized use, reproductions, or duplications are prohibited unless solely expressed in writing.
Cub Cadet, Cub, Cadet, IH, MTD, Parts, Tractors, Tractor, International Harvester, Lawn, Garden, Lawn Mower, Kohler, garden tractor equipment, lawn garden tractors, antique garden tractors, garden tractor, PTO, parts, online, Original, 70, 71, 72, 73, 76, SO76, 80, 81, 86, 100, 102, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108,109, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 147, 149, 169, 182, 282, 382, 482, 580, 582, 582 Special, 680, 682, 782, 782D, 784, 800, 805, 882, 982, 984, 986, 1000, 1015, 1100, 1105, 1110, 1200, 1250, 1282, 1450, 1512, 1604, 1605, 1606, 1610, 1615, 1620, 1650, 1710, 1711, 1712, 1806, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1912, 1914.
Linear Mode
