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07-02-2017, 10:35 PM
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86 Starter/Generator - educate me
Hello guys, had a really bad run lately, my 1861 blew out the flywheel side crank seal (which I have, just need to get the engine cleaned off and back together). In the meantime I've been mowing with my 782, until the starter bit the dust this afternoon. Ended up running over to my Parent's house and picking up my 86 to finish mowing, as my wife has invited people over for the holiday. Anyway it did the job, but I could hear a real loud growl/rattle at times. When I finally finished I noticed the S/G has overheated and dripped out some black oily material.
Pulled it off, and it does feel as though it has a bad bearing. My questions are- is it rebuildable? I'm wondering since it got so hot if I should just give up on it. Parts tree doesn't show too many pieces available anymore. My Dad has one sitting for one of his 147s, and I'd bet there is probably another 1 or 2 used ones in his shed. I may grab one to get me going in the meantime. Waiting for it to cool off so I can take it apart. Thanks for any advice/recommendations. Little guy did a pretty good job until this happened. I guess when it rains, it pours.
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07-02-2017, 11:36 PM
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Do not give up on the S/G. Parts are very available. Starter/Alt shops can rebuild them no issues, or get you parts.
Yes, you can rebuild them. Some have two bearings, and some have one bearing and a bushing. Either way, all the parts are available. You can rebuild it yourself, or have it done.... but I would turn the comm and put a set of brushes in it, unless they look new. Only advantage to a shop is they can check the armature on a growler and look for bad sections. Outside of that little tool.... pretty simple rebuild.
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07-03-2017, 12:04 AM
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I was hoping you'd chime in Jon. The parts breakdown didn't look too difficult, just a lot of NLA stuff from Cub (not that that is unusual). It still feels warm now, 3 hrs later. I'm going to grab one of my Dad's S/Gs to get it rolling again & take mine apart this week. Had it not got so hot & leaked out the black stuff I'd have no bones about taking it apart. I guess the teardown will tell the story.
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07-03-2017, 02:17 AM
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If it got hot enough to melt either the formica, or the varnish on the wires, then you probably need to have the armature tested. You can still do the rebuild yourself.... just see if you can get it run on a growler. The electric shop I use is very reasonable. You can do a quick check with a multimeter yourself. If you find a short, you will know more right away.
Might check this out too: http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=824
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07-03-2017, 06:13 AM
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I agree with Jonathon. In my opinion, it is better to rebuild what you have (Delco-Remy) than replace it with that cheap foreign made junk you see on the internet.
My suggestion, is to take the S/G to a established and reputable motor repair shop. They can fix and fully test the S/G. 
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07-03-2017, 08:06 PM
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I find that the hardest part of having things repaired is that often I don't know a 'reputable' shop that is close by, and those that are can be a crap shoot. Is there a sticky/thread/etc on here (or do you think we could make one?) that lists geographically shops that will do things to help out those that are mechanically challenged?
 Anyone ever thought of this? For example, if I needed my S/G rebuilt right now I would have no clue who around me would be able to do it.
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07-03-2017, 08:19 PM
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