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Old 10-22-2017, 02:39 PM
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Was mowing today with my 1641 I inherited from my father-in-law. The steering [not power] has always been a little sloppy but today it just stopped-wheel turns but nothing. Steering arm and tie rods connected so I am guessing the problem lies in the steering box. Is this a complicated fix? This model has the adjustable steering wheel and hydraulic controls for the deck. Do they complicate things? Also is there a rebuild kit available? The You Tube videos of the box seem simple enough but I need guidance on the preliminaries. Help. Please.
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Old 10-22-2017, 02:44 PM
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Sounds like it wore the cam follower off completely. Probably easier to find a good used and replace it. That is unless you are a good welder and own equipment to do such tasks.

Getting the column out is more of a pain in the arse than it is complicated.
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:55 PM
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Does the steering wheel turn and then stop or does it spin round and round and round and...
You get the picture.
Let us know.
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Old 10-22-2017, 09:10 PM
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Sounds like it wore the cam follower off completely. Probably easier to find a good used and replace it. That is unless you are a good welder and own equipment to do such tasks.

Getting the column out is more of a pain in the arse than it is complicated.
Sounds like you lost a spinner fidget bearing
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May have stripped out the splines on the CV upper part of the steering where it tilts. All speculation of course. Let us know what you find
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:45 PM
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The wheel turns but does stop. It does go from lock to lock but only moves the tires a little bit at the end when turning left. How involved is it to pull the shaft with an angling adjusting steering wheel?
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:02 PM
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The wheel turns but does stop. It does go from lock to lock but only moves the tires a little bit at the end when turning left. How involved is it to pull the shaft with an angling adjusting steering wheel?
Easy, drop it out the bottom after you remove the deck, engine cover and disconnect it from the upper column at the flex joint..
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More than likely the nut that holds the drag link to the steering column arm is missing, or the ball joint connection has failed, no need to remove the column yet.
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Old 10-25-2017, 01:33 PM
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I removed deck and cover plate and found the pitman arm was loose-moving about an inch laterally, I fiddled to get the spacer back in place, centered the wheel and tightened the large nut on the opposite side and turned the cam follower back until tight. It works but I want a more durable fix--there are no jam nuts holding anything tight. I would like to drop the shaft and fix it but I do not have a manual to do things like remove engine cover and disconnect from flex joint as suggested above. Suggestions?
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I removed deck and cover plate and found the pitman arm was loose-moving about an inch laterally, I fiddled to get the spacer back in place, centered the wheel and tightened the large nut on the opposite side and turned the cam follower back until tight. It works but I want a more durable fix--there are no jam nuts holding anything tight. I would like to drop the shaft and fix it but I do not have a manual to do things like remove engine cover and disconnect from flex joint as suggested above. Suggestions?
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