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Old 05-02-2024, 01:06 PM
Dajeepman Dajeepman is offline
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Default Steering Linkage.

Has anyone upgraded the factory steering ball joints to Heim Joints?

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New Heim Joint.



I got a Cub 108 and Steering is getting sloppy and i know even my Kubota mower uses the Older style ball joints and they seem to get slop in them over time.
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Old 05-02-2024, 05:24 PM
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I swapped them. They are much tighter and I haven't had any issues.
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Old 05-02-2024, 06:23 PM
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I swapped them. They are much tighter and I haven't had any issues.
That's good to hear, Mine has play. I also will be tighting up the Ross Steering Box too to help with the play. It now wonders because of the loose linkage.
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Old 05-03-2024, 05:59 PM
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Mine had a ton of slop. New linkages helped, and cleaning out the steering box and tightening it up was great. I use a snow thrower on my 169 and it seems like I have to tighten up the box a little every couple years to keep it tight. Good luck with yours!
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Old 05-07-2024, 08:32 AM
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Mine had a ton of slop. New linkages helped, and cleaning out the steering box and tightening it up was great. I use a snow thrower on my 169 and it seems like I have to tighten up the box a little every couple years to keep it tight. Good luck with yours!
How hard was it to tighten the steering box?
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Old 05-07-2024, 09:21 AM
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Wear everywhere will add up to almost uncontrollable steering.
I have seen so called "restored" Cubs with sloppy steering issues as well.
The "C" channel being stretched out of shape and worn axle pivot pins and bushings are a culprit as well as rarely or never greased knuckles is part of the issue that causes hard steering which in turn result in worn parts and on and on.......
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Old 05-07-2024, 07:43 PM
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The steering box wasn't too bad once I got the steering wheel off. I pulled the column out of the bottom, cleaned out the old grease, loaded it with new grease, and put it back. My cam follower stud (IH-379992-R1) was pretty worn out, and I think I got a new one from Jeff. It took a little fiddling to get the stud and adjusting plug tight enough to note be sloppy but loose enough to work well, but the whole project didn't take too long. I added the bearing upgrade to the box; I think it was the NICE 605 bearing. I think the upgrade helped, but it's hard to say because it was all in bad shape to start with and I brought it all back to where it should've been.
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Old 05-08-2024, 10:32 PM
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The "C" channel being stretched out of shape and worn axle pivot pins and bushings are a culprit
This.

I can turn my wheels and watch one wheel shift forward quite a bit.

I plan on acquiring a super steer axle and tightening up the C-channel at the same time.
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Old 05-17-2024, 07:22 PM
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I've been adding Heim as the ball joints fail or get sloppy.
However, I found that the biggest difference on mine was repairing the pivot pin on the front axle.

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