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Old 01-19-2015, 10:57 AM
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then what is it?
Daihatsu. Pretty good motors really. Or, at least according to "The Mac".



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well here goes told ya its ugly. last two are the best angles i could get of the flywheel without taking it apart that will follow
them some sweet welds on that frame huh?
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Yep...... that is ugly!!

Definitely a stock flywheel.
Pretty gutsy of that PO given it has no governor.
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thats what i thought. ill let you know more bout this governor when i get a good look at it
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Ok. I can see that. But a Vanguard isn't really a B&S motor.
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Daihatsu Briggs & Stratton (DBS) – In an effort to stave off Japanese competition during the 1980s, Briggs & Stratton entered a 50/50 joint venture with the Daihatsu Motor Company in Japan. Located in Shiga Prefecture (50 miles (80 km) from Osaka, Japan), construction on the then-57,000-square-foot (5,300 m2) plant began in December 1986 and was completed in April 1987. This joint venture was notable for the manufacture of vertical and horizontal crankshaft engines from 12.5 to 22 hp (16 kW) under the Vanguard brand. Today the plant employs roughly 100 people on two shifts and manufactures Vanguard V-twin engines ranging from 14 to 36 hp (27 kW).[7]
The Van Guard engine is a joint venture between Briggs & Stratton and Daihatsu. This was a popular thing companies did back in the 80's. The Van Guard is a Briggs and Stratton engine in my book. The above quote proves it.
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The Van Guard engine is a joint venture between Briggs & Stratton and Daihatsu. This was a popular thing companies did back in the 80's. The Van Guard is a Briggs and Stratton engine in my book. The above quote proves it.
Well, it's half Zeke and half 'Melican according to that article. Zeke design but 50-50 deal.

Who cares. Good engine.
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The Van Guard engine is a joint venture between Briggs & Stratton and Daihatsu. This was a popular thing companies did back in the 80's. The Van Guard is a Briggs and Stratton engine in my book. The above quote proves it.
So.......
Is the 60 Series Detroit a Detroit or a John Deere? Or is the Deere Powertech a Detroit? Both engines are almost identical and came from a joint venture between Detroit and John Deere......


Being that the Vanguards seem to hold up better than any B&S motor, I'm going to say they are more Daihatsu than B&S.
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I don't know and honestly don't care who designed them, they work and from what I've seen are about as idiot proof as can be. So far I have yet to see one that won't run no matter how stupid the owner is.

Now as far as an un-governed puller engine goes your on your own. Just my 2 cents but I'd have a serious blow shield around the flywheel if it was my feet in the explosion area if it was me.
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So.......
Is the 60 Series Detroit a Detroit or a John Deere? Or is the Deere Powertech a Detroit? Both engines are almost identical and came from a joint venture between Detroit and John Deere......


Being that the Vanguards seem to hold up better than any B&S motor, I'm going to say they are more Daihatsu than B&S.
There are several different tractors that had a Detroit in them. If my memory is working right the John Deere that had the Detroit in it had a the words Detroit Diesel cast into it. My Van Guard engine doesn't have the word Daihatsu on it. I have 2 pre Briggs and Stratton Van Guard Engines that are doing the job ask some 20 to 30 years after they were put into service.

Good maintenance will make any engine last longer.
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yup looks like there is no governer .... WOW!!!.... on a stock flywheel
man was this guy a hack
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