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Old 08-31-2011, 07:59 PM
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I never realized there was such a problem with the series I. Are they just bad engines?
Yes, Yamaguy. Like weaverama stated it was/is the way the oil is distributed throughout the engine on the KT17 Series I. Kohler had to redesigned the KT17 Series I. The KT17 Series II uses a higher pressurized oil system of 25-50 PSI. The new design included oiling the journals in the crankshaft by cross drilling the crankshaft which allowed oil to be supplied under pressure to the connecting rod journals whereas the Series I has/had very low pressure which when operated on inclines for extended periods was subject to catastrophic engine failure. The Series I design starved the crankshaft bearings of oil. So, when operating a tractor with the Series I on inclines, the oil, by virtue of low oil pressure, was no longer available to lubricate the crank.

Sure, some will say they've had a Series I in their tractor forever and have had NO issues. I'll be the first to say "That's fantastic!!!" I on the other hand don't need to take the chance of having "catastrophic engine failure". As I mentioned in a previous post I just don't need another tractor that bad.

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The KT lubrication system is best viewed this way....



There are guys that cry that the Series I is no good. I have a friend that has a 682 w/ the original KT-17 Series I in it ......NO Problems. He does have a flat lawn and he keeps good care of his motor with regular maintenance.
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I have a friend that has a 682 w/ the original KT-17 Series I in it ......NO Problems. He does have a flat lawn and he keeps good care of his motor with regular maintenance.
That's fantastic!!!

Thank you for the illustration.
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They really are not THAT bad, they just get a bad rap because the lubrication system is less than ideal, and inferior to the KT-17II and M18.

I have had 3 blown Series I engines...all 3 were run too low on oil. Proper maintenance is key...
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I have to agree with Matt G. I looked around for a nice 782 with a series II engine without much luck. Found a super nice original 782 with a series I. This thing runs like a beast and doesn't miss a beat. The PO didn't use it on his ditches and specifically told me not to use it on sloped surfaces. This was coming from a non-collector. I plan to keep it full of oil and serviced correctly and hope it lasts for another thirty years.............

The pics of the 682 you posted in the ad make it look to be in pretty decent shape other than around the headlights. Pics can be deceiving though.

Keep looking and something will surface for you. Good luck.
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I had a few with the Series I and both lasted well over 1000 hrs. Like Matt said proper servicing is the key. I would not be afraid of getting one with the Series I if I could confirm it was well taken care of but then again that's always a risk with anything.
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