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[R Bedell]

Stanely - Black & Decker bought Cub Cadet about 2 yrs ago.

[1711Cub]

They will totally destroy what MTD failed to destroy..

[Sergeant]

Originally Posted by RoseHillFarmIHCC125

I didn’t know Stanley (Black & Decker) was the parent of MTD. Stanley is also the parent of Mac Tools.

December 2021 Stanley finished the Purchased of the the Remaining stock of MTD They Had Invested or Bought a 200 Million stake In MTD 3 years Prior with an Option to Buy https://www.mtdproducts.com/en_US/St...MTD-Excel.html

[Sergeant]

Originally Posted by 1711Cub

They will totally destroy what MTD failed to destroy..

You Know I Heard that for 40 Years MTD will destroy Cub.(BTW I was one of those People at one time to that thought that as well) Well MTD/Cub Out lived International Harvester By 36 Years and the Only Reason Mr Moll sold MTD was his children didn't want to take it over like he had from his father. Yes, he pocketed a Lot of Money. But at the same time, He Preserved a lot of Jobs by selling to a stable company. I am not happy either that they stopped a shaft driven model. I hope they do some Improvements to their Belt driven Models, You could make a belt driven Model That is pretty equal to a XT3 Series as Far as what it can do. Because a Belt actually transfers Horsepower more efficiently than a drive shaft But Belt's do ware and loose that advantage after a Period of time But Once replaced with a new Belt it gains that advantage back. On average, I have had to replace a Traction drive belt every 10 to 15 years On the Belt driven Garden tractors I have Had.

The first Cub Cadet was engine to Belt to drive shaft and the reason they went to direct drive shaft was The IH Cub Design department Liked what Bolens had done with it's Garden tractors. Had Bolens Not done that You Might have seen IH go on with a Belt within the Drive Line when the 70 & 100 came out Harold Schramm Just happened to Like what he saw at a Elgin, Illinois IH dealer That sold Bolens

[RoseHillFarmIHCC125]

My Cub 125 would probably pull any machine today labeled a “garden tractor” backward, except that green 700 series. I’m just looking for a sturdy mowing machine because it’s cost prohibitive for me to buy the parts to enable my 125 to mow. If I knew then what I know now, I would have sought out an IHCC that still mowed grass. My tractor no longer has ANY of the parts to mow grass.

[Sergeant]

Originally Posted by RoseHillFarmIHCC125

My Cub 125 would probably pull any machine today labeled a “garden tractor” backward, except that green 700 series. I’m just looking for a sturdy mowing machine because it’s cost prohibitive for me to buy the parts to enable my 125 to mow. If I knew then what I know now, I would have sought out an IHCC that still mowed grass. My tractor no longer has ANY of the parts to mow grass.

I use to believe that myth about IHCC Until I tried a Cub 1450 against My Deere GX335(older version of today's X580) That belt driven K71 Pulled it Backwards at the time My son and I tried them out all had Turf Tires Haven't tried them with AG's that are Now On the 1450 and HDAP that are now On the GX335. I bet the GX335 would still pull it Backwards

I own 5 Belt driven Garden tractors
1963 Cub Original technically Partially Belt
1964 JD 110
1969 JD 112
1992 Wheel Horse 416H
2004 JD GX335


I own 3 true Shaft driven IH Cubs
1965 70
1970 106
1976 1450

Two MTD/Cub Shaft drive
1991 2182 Super
2018 XT3 GSX

My other shaft driven Garden tractors are
1974 JD 140
1999 White GT2055
2012 JD X748

But if You Just need a Tractor for mowing who care's If It Can't out pull the 125. You use the 125 for the Heavy work and Use a Cub XT2 GX 54D for the Mowing work That K62 Has More than enough Power & torque to Handle sleeve Hitch Implements and snow removal

I think I will try My Cub 1450 against My Cub XT3 GSX this summer and see which will pull which Backwards

Only Issue I have had with My XT3 GSX the Warner PTO clutch Failed at 1.5 Hrs and that was a Warner Issue Not MTD's fault

Or if You so concerned about having a drive shaft Buy a Late model Cub 2000 or XT3 series There out there Used with Low Hours.

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[RoseHillFarmIHCC125]

I do like the XT2 with diff lock. Honestly, I like the John Deere 500 series. I’m just partial to my old cub because I rebuilt it. It is a working machine on our mini farm so it’s not a show stopper.

[Sergeant]

Originally Posted by RoseHillFarmIHCC125

I do like the XT2 with diff lock. Honestly, I like the John Deere 500 series. I’m just partial to my old cub because I rebuilt it. It is a working machine on our mini farm so it’s not a show stopper.

My Favorite Cub is My Cub Cadet 106 I re-painted it In 2006 and 2021. I upgraded the duff-Norton electric lift actuator In 2016 to a Thompson actuator (still slow to lift, but faster than the duff-Norton actuator). I am hoping to add this https://www.thomsonlinear.com/en/pro...uators/h-track electric over Hydraulic actuator This year some time to Have Hydraulic Lift and Maintain the Look of the 106 without having to add My Narrow frame Hydraulic Lift which I think I will put On My 70 now. All My Tractors are workers Once I add the electric over Hydraulic actuator. The 106 will become my Main garden Cultivating Tractor

The Great thing about Having as Many tractors as I do, I can have each tractor for a specific Job, No need to do attachment change over then. All My tractor Mounted Mowing decks are in storage. The Only Mower I have is the Cub Cadet SX54 Zero turn But I can get a deck of a shelf if I need to use one of the Tractors for mowing which I had to do Last Year and Used My Cub Cadet XT3 GSX for Mowing for about a Month or so. As I had some issues with the electric lift on the SX54, waiting on parts was the reason it was down so long. I always used to Think I would never get a zero turn for mowing when I first saw them In the Late 1970s with My Great Uncle's Dixion zero turn. Took me over 40 years to get one. I have 3.9 acres, but 2.2 acres Get mowed Twice weekly so it saves about 2 Hrs a week Mowing or an hour each time I mow over a Tractor with a deck. I'll only go back to a standard tractor for mowing if I absolutely have to

[RoseHillFarmIHCC125]

Sergeant that’s quite an impressive collection you have! My 125 is the only machine on our property. I use it to plow our garden and maintain our driveway. I used to have a TroyBilt Pony 42” mower with Ag tires on the back and ribs on the front. A friend gave me a 2007 Simplicity Axion 42” zero turn that didn’t run. I fixed it and used it for one season. I sold it and the Troy Bilt and bought my 125. The 125 was struggling when I bought it and I rebuilt the engine from the ground up. I split it last week to repair the hydro linkage. It operates like a dream now. When we moved to this property I bought a ‘72 Kubota L260 to clear the property and plow the small gardens. I sold the Kubota because it was too big for what I needed. I needed a small, tough machine to work around here and the green ones were just too expensive. My 125 is perfect for our property now. I run out of traction before I ever run out of power.

[Sergeant]

Originally Posted by RoseHillFarmIHCC125

Sergeant that’s quite an impressive collection you have! My 125 is the only machine on our property. I use it to plow our garden and maintain our driveway. I used to have a TroyBilt Pony 42” mower with Ag tires on the back and ribs on the front. A friend gave me a 2007 Simplicity Axion 42” zero turn that didn’t run. I fixed it and used it for one season. I sold it and the Troy Bilt and bought my 125. The 125 was struggling when I bought it and I rebuilt the engine from the ground up. I split it last week to repair the hydro linkage. It operates like a dream now. When we moved to this property I bought a ‘72 Kubota L260 to clear the property and plow the small gardens. I sold the Kubota because it was too big for what I needed. I needed a small, tough machine to work around here and the green ones were just too expensive. My 125 is perfect for our property now. I run out of traction before I ever run out of power.

I have been collecting an Army Pension for the Last 20 Plus years all 3 or my Kids are all through school and Your Tax dollars paid for that through their Active Army service I don't have a Mortgage on My House and I don't collect Fancy Cars and I still work full time I spend My Money Mostly On Outdoor Power equipment whether used or new I couldn't afford Back In the Day on an enlisted Soldiers Salary (retired Master Sergeant/ E-8) I don't think there is a Brand of Outdoor Power equipment I dislike except Maybe Exmark (but all they have ever made is commercial Mowers).

When I started On tractor forums in 2002 I did have a Lot of Brand Biased against some of the Brands, Always Been a JD, Cub, Ingersoll and White Fan.
But over these Last 20 years Plus come to really understand there were a Lot Of Quality Brands Manufacturers In Brands I mostly Ignored Though I had Looked at Bolens, Gravely, Ariens and Wheel Horse Back In the day as well. I just ended Up Buying something else.

1st Machine I bought for Myself was a Used JD R70 Rear engine rider with a 38-inch Front Blade in 1986 it was a 10 Months old when I bought it used. My Only Lemon as the drive sprocket likes to Fall out of the frame. Traded that for a Used JD 130 we also bought a Used Murray Lawn Tractor as well, so the wife Could Help Me.

In 1988, I Bought My 1st New John Deere a belt driven JD 240 with a 38-inch deck, 46i-nch front blade, Snow thrower, 30-inch Tiller and an Integral Hitch (Sleeve Hitch) had that Tractor for 12 Years Gave it to My cousin in 2000, and He is still using it for Garden and snow removal work But during Ownership of the JD 240 we bought a New Ingersoll 3016PS and MTD made Wards GT and Finally a White GT2055 which I traded the Wards MTD in on a Kiwk-way Loader for the White GT2055. That was In 1999 after a Year of using the white with Loader I Bought a Used 1993 or 94 JD 425 with 40 Loader, 60-inch deck, 450 tillers and a 46-inch single stage thrower got it all for $3,300 as It was a consignment sale at a Deere dealer. All the Owner wanted was to pay off what He owed On His JD compact tractor. Traded that JD 425 with all attachments in 2003 on a New JD X485(older version of today's X730) with a 45 Loader, 48-inch deck, Limited Cat 1 3point, 540RPm rear PTO and a Ballast Box. I had retired from the Army In 2002 when I Got Back from Afghanistan. We Moved Back to our House In Illinois, a House I Purchased in 1983 and Had it Paid off By 1995 as I got Great rent for it. Well I Got an age waiver to Join the Illinois State Police and the wife wanted a Tractor, so I Bought her a 2002 Cub Cadet 2206 with 48-inch Deck, Electric Lift sleeve Hitch and 30-inch Hydraulic driven tiller Our 1st New Cub also Picked Up a Used Cub Cadet Original from a Buddies Customer for Free. Picked Up My second Cub Cadet from a Late neighbor's widow where I had grown up, which was a 1970 Cub Cadet 106. I used to watch him in the winter throwing snow as a child with that 106, and I don't know how he did it without the spring assist. Which was the 1st thing I put on the 106.

But Growing Up, I lived across the street From the IH Cub cadet Test engineer, the Late David Stevenson. So I got to see a Lot of of IH Cub Cadets before they were even released to The dealers shows. I can remember riding In Mr Stevenson Lap on a 107 before it even saw Production also Got to Drive several Of the 1st Model Year of the wide Frame a 108 and a 149 again before IH dealers even saw them at the IH shows also saw the 82 series In High school when they were Not Painted IH red during the test stages they were In federal Yellow and White a few were Just IH white. The 82 series color choice really had a detrimental effect on the engineer Department, Many retired about the time as the 82 series went into Production because with the Hiring of Archie McCardell and they Fact the Guy In charge of the department being a salesman and Not an engineer anymore they saw the coming end of IH in 1979 Because McCardell had fired a lot of the Management that did the UAW Negotiations Many retired Just before the strike Kicked off But they had seen the writing on the Walls They didn't Think IH would Have actually made it to 1985 They really thought IH would Have been sold by 1982