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Old 03-10-2014, 10:40 AM
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looks like it just came out of the box.

nice work!!
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It looks nice, but I think you are going to find that it won't "suck" itself into the ground. The plow point doesn't angle far enough forward. Needs more curve to it. (See pic below.) No, I doubt a 12hp would pull 3. Not very deep anyway, and like Sam said, it would be "tractionally challenged". If it does go in the ground, I think John is right on, you'll need a wheel.

See how the shares on the ripper sit at a less than 45° angle? That's what makes it "pull" itself into the ground.

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Old 03-10-2014, 01:43 PM
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I don't think you will have any problem getting it into the ground, now controlling how far it goes into the ground you may have a problem. It doesn't look so much like a subsoiler, more like a layoff plow or something like that. I'm not sure how good a GT will pull it either I have seen videos of GT's plowing however here in Georgia red clay I gave up on dreaming of plowing with a GT. Below is a picture of a single subsoiler the only place I have ever used a subsoiler was in a pasture to create water retention.

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I think it will go in the ground as well. I've got a single shank subsoiler I made by using the shank from a Taylor-way subsoiler designed for a Farmall M and building a 3pt hitch to fit a 90hp tractor. The shank design on it is about the same. I can drop it in at least 18". I'm curious where the hardpan on a garden spot would be, maybe 6-8" if it has been continuously worked with only a tiller? I really think this will improve how well a tiller and disc perform. Should improve yield on sweet corn too!
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I guess we will find out when he sticks it in the ground whether it will work or not. It really all depends on how deep he wants to go. That is scarifier shank off of a box blade, and I've tried to use those for ripping before. They weren't curved enough. Went in about 4" and that was it, and that is with a BUNCH of weight on it. It's all about the curve/angle. The hard pan is in the same place it will be in any other location in his area, being a garden doesn't change that. I don't know where that is in PA. In the part of Ill I'm in, the hard-pan is about 12"-14".
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You're right about the hard pan. I should have been a little clearer, meaning the ground should get quite a bit tighter once you get beyond the zone normally tilled, but certainly not to the point it will fracture and lift when ripped.
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You're right about the hard pan. I should have been a little clearer, meaning the ground should get quite a bit tighter once you get beyond the zone normally tilled, but certainly not to the point it will fracture and lift when ripped.
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It looks nice, but I think you are going to find that it won't "suck" itself into the ground. The plow point doesn't angle far enough forward. Needs more curve to it. (See pic below.) No, I doubt a 12hp would pull 3. Not very deep anyway, and like Sam said, it would be "tractionally challenged". If it does go in the ground, I think John is right on, you'll need a wheel.

See how the shares on the ripper sit at a less than 45° angle? That's what makes it "pull" itself into the ground.

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Not to hy-jack this thread but this contraption is a lime truck's worst nightmare (ask ME how I know). LOL
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I don't know of a GT that would pull a sub soiler in the first place as far as pulling it 14" deep, BUT maybe I'm wrong.
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Here's the subsoiler I built. It works decent but I had to add weight to it to get it into the ground. It needs a longer point set at more angle to help pull itself down. It does pull down better in hard packed ground than it did in my tilled garden. It went in about 12-13" in sod and had no problem pulling it even with the Sears turf tires.



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