4 bottom plow

[red56turbo]

Originally Posted by R Bedell

Nice video, BUT.....I didn't see this plow in action. I am skeptical that a 20 HP tractor will pull 4 - 8" bottoms at 6" deep.

I have to agree with Roland on this one. Pretty to look at, unrealistic to use with that combo.........

[Rguyer04]

I don't know if I should be asking this here or in a new thread but here it goes. For all the engineers one of the few times a maintenance man will ask for your expertise. Has anybody ever done a test to find out how much force it takes to pull a plow through the ground at depth.

[ol'George]

I pull 3 14's semi mounted with a Ih 450--45 Hp maybe #7500 weight
my 730 two cylinder diesel pulls 4 14"s trailer plow rated @ 59 hp weighs #8000
and my IH 806 pulls 5 14's semi mounted rated @ 96 hp weight is #8500 or so
my little allis chalmers "B" will pull a single 18" trailer plow rated @ 18 Hp about #2000 weight.
All have chloride loaded tires and in good mechanical condition
hope this helps.

[Sam Mac]

I'm just going to sit back and watch this thread.

[raytasch]

Might do a bit of scratchin' in previously plowed light loam but sure is not going to bust sod.

[Rguyer04]

Raytasch I am wanting to bust sod for plow days is my goal. I am wonder at the moment tho if its been tested say with a 10'' plow 6 '' deep it takes say 150 lbs of linear force to break throw and turn 1 foot of dirt. Now before somebody jumps on me that is not the number that is an example please keep that in mind.

ol George that is some nice information. Can you tell me with how much ease the 450 pulls those plows.

[R Bedell]

When we (my family) farmed, we had a Farmall 560 (60 HP) that pulled 4-14" at 8" depth, most of the time. Wet or clay ground (and/or both) the 560 needed assistance. Now that is based on the soil here in Mid Michigan.

[ol'George]

Originally Posted by Rguyer04

Raytasch I am wanting to bust sod for plow days is my goal. I am wonder at the moment tho if its been tested say with a 10'' plow 6 '' deep it takes say 150 lbs of linear force to break throw and turn 1 foot of dirt. Now before somebody jumps on me that is not the number that is an example please keep that in mind.

ol George that is some nice information. Can you tell me with how much ease the 450 pulls those plows.

The 450 pulls the 3-14's ok but in clay, not so good as to be expected.
My favorite is my 70 and 730, pulling the 4-14's trailer plow-- both diesels, they just seem to put-put all day long with just as much pull-ability to the last grunt.
The 450 & 806 have to keep the RPM up to pull hard.
It's just how they produce power, apples and oranges so to speak
I also enjoy the 806 pulling the semi mounted J.D. 5-14's
It just hums along, and when I come to a clay spot, just pull the TA, and it keep going.
It gives the feeling of a more refined tractor, as the 301" 6 cyl is smoother than the JD 2 cyl johnny popper.
Again, apples to oranges but fun to play in the dirt.
If I'm in a hurry to work a field, The 806 gets hitched up.
but early in the season, on a warm sunny day, the 70 or 730 gets to play.

The 450 has a loader on it and gets more use as a loader tractor or the old Wain Roy backhoe attachment is put on if it is needed.
It actually gets more hours in a season than the other tractors.
Also it is my favorite haying tractor.

[Rguyer04]

I did just find an article about this but I guess I need to build the plow first to see how much it weighs.
http://open-furrow.soil.ncsu.edu/Doc...20Traction.pdf

I also think I need to be awake when I read that again.

[red56turbo]

I don't know if you get Red Power Magazine, but there's an article in there called the "Tractor Doctor" IIRC. He did a story a little while back about a gauge he found that hooked between the plow and the tractor. It measured the amount of pull/force that the plow needed to be pulled. It was old school technology and was prolly from the 50's or 60's. Was a pretty neat article.

As others have said, all depends on conditions and location. Sandy, clay, black dirt, bean/corn ground, new virgin sod, ground turned every other year, no-tilled for 20 years............. We plow for fun every year at Grandma's farm. We use everything from a Farmall H/ 2 16" plows to the big dogs. My favorite combo is the 1456 and IH 710 6 16" bottom plow. Walks the dog in L4, pyro starts moving up H1. Another big tractor we use is the 1586 with an IH 720 5 18" bottom plow. We usually have anywhere from 4-10 tractors in the furrow. Have our own little plow day...........