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Old 02-22-2014, 08:08 PM
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I use only hytran myself but if you are going to use the TSC stuff don't use hydraulic oil use tractor fluid there is a difference. Traveler is hyd oil and extreme tractor fluid is tractor fluid. Tractor fluid has more friction modifiers than hydraulic oil thus it will make your transmission last longer.
It's not really a transmission, it's a hydraulic system. Piston pump and motor. The gears turn slow. You don't need a friction modifier, either oil will work fine. I run regular hydraulic oil in all mine. The only difference between hy-tran and the other oils is the water encapsulating ability. Which, personally, I don't like. Leaves a buildup in the transmissions.
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Old 02-23-2014, 12:34 PM
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My 782 would not move in cold temps (below freezing). Not sure what the previous owner had in the rear but I bought the easier to acquire TSC 'Traveller Premium universal tractor Trans/Hydraulic Fluid'. It meets the IH specs "MS1205 MS1206 MS1207 MS1209". Since it met the specs I gave it a shot... after the filter/fluid change the tractor moves immediately, even in 15 degree temps.
My thought is that these Pumps are old school simple, no finicky materials in them that require ' magical' fluids. I am sticking with this for the future.
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It's not really a transmission, it's a hydraulic system. Piston pump and motor. The gears turn slow. You don't need a friction modifier, either oil will work fine. I run regular hydraulic oil in all mine. The only difference between hy-tran and the other oils is the water encapsulating ability. Which, personally, I don't like. Leaves a buildup in the transmissions.
Couldn't agree more Jonathan. I am a firm believer that hytran draws in moisture. I have done many fluid changes in my time and the only time I ever saw any moisture was on hytran changes. A bunch of nasty crap stuck all over everything. Same machines with X brand oil and no signs of moisture any where. I'll just stick to what I know.
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I use the NAPA brand of hydro trans fluid. I use it in my forklift trans too.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:32 PM
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It seems like every couple months we get the “What is the best Hydro Fluid” question. Just my 2 cents, the Cub book recommends Hy-Tran. That said I have used the following in my stuff, Mobil 1310 (NLA), Mobil 1 10W30, Rotella T 15W40, TSC, Walmart Super Tech, Napa, and Kubota SUDTA. I have not had a problem with any of them. Now if you are one of those that run’s your oil for ever I’d go with the Hy-Tran. Me I change the oil and filter every 100 or so hours, I have also drilled all of my aluminum cased transmissions so that all of the oil drains. I don’t care for the globs of waxy stuff that I find in old Hy-Tran filled transmissions. I figure regular oil and filter changes are cheap compared to new parts and then changing the oil anyway. By regular I’m talking 2 years max. At the moment I’m about to work on a Snapper ZTR for my BIL that calls for Mobil 1 15-50. It’s your tractor put in it whatever you want to, show me a failure caused by oil, failures caused by lack of any maintenance is a different story.

As I said it's your tractor, put what you want in it, if it fails don't call me.
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Old 02-24-2014, 01:27 PM
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I've been running the TSC Hy-Tran equivalent in my 1862 for over 2 years without any problems. I'm getting ready to do my first 100 hr change on the TSC fluid so it will be interesting to see what it looks like.
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I wish I would have taken a picture.

When I bought my # 1250 I asked the previous owner about his maintenance. He was quite adamant with his answer!

He changed his oil (hy-tran) & filter once a year every summer. It's not that I didn't believe him but? Getting it home I wanted to make an inspection for myself. I dropped the plate & drained the oil. It was just so clean & was very much impressed. So with my # 1250 being my main grass killer & my # 127 for snow duties & back-up I do the same. A few bucks more its once a year with a change & filter.

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For what it's worth, I've always used Hy-Tran (well, Mastertran; same exact thing but with a New Holland name) in my equipment. However, I've got 2 that are coming up for a change in early spring and plan on giving TSC Traveler a try. Time will tell, but like others have said, you are the master of your own equipment, use what works.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:51 PM
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Personally, I don't care for the globs of crap, that accumulate in the case when moisture encapsulating fluid is used, some them end up right there in front of the suction tube.

You will be hard pressed to make me believe that many of those globs don't get sucked into the tube and circulate throughout the system. If the water is gonna be in there, I'd just as soon have it puddled in the bottom of the case until it circulates and mixes with the fluid. I don't generally let it go that long anyway.

For me, frequent changes and use whatever will fit through that little hole.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:31 AM
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Sam,
I have to agree with you 100%
I have multiple old 2 cyl Green and Red tractors that I have accumulated over the past 50 years and I drain the water out of the gear housings yearly to keep them from freezing/rusting.
With 15-20 gal reservoirs each, it is not cost effective to drain and refill with fluid.
An oil/water emulsion is the last thing I need.
But there are some applications I'm sure, where a water absorbing quality is desired.
To each his own, and the application I guess
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