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Old 08-03-2014, 10:15 PM
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He put diesel down the intake, OK that scares me even more. Let me guess this is your first time at the rodeo with a diesel. It's not like a gasser that you pour a little gas into the carb and it fires up. A diesel requires a measured amount of fuel to be injected into the combustion chamber at just the right time during the compression stroke to fire.

Your $$$, your deal, glad your happy, happy,happy. Me I'd be saying I'll give you X amount of $$$ if I can get it running less parts cost's. Good luck on this one.
This is the answer boys. You can't dump diesel fuel down the intake and make it run. Not gonna happen. I'd say there's more to the ol' story. I wouldn't give 1K for it.


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Cool beans Earl. Not sure what pump your talking about but the 782D's & 882's had 2 fuel pumps. One was electric and one was mechanical. Then they figured that the mechanical pump on the engine wasn't needed and discontinued using them on the 1572's. Side panels are easy to find. How well does it run and how is the driveline? We need pics too.
Early 7's had both, the late 7's only had the electrical. That's what the parts book shows anyway.....
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:11 AM
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Cool beans Earl. Not sure what pump your talking about but the 782D's & 882's had 2 fuel pumps. One was electric and one was mechanical. Then they figured that the mechanical pump on the engine wasn't needed and discontinued using them on the 1572's. Side panels are easy to find. How well does it run and how is the driveline? We need pics too.
This one has two pumps a small in line on the left side near the battery. And another on the block, the drive line seems near perfect I didn't drive it but it did run fine and that smell of the smoker is what solidified the deal for me...


Sam mac I've had plenty of diesel experience. From tractors to trucks. You are right and wrong, you can indeed spritz fuel through the intake to get them to run. Had a Ford with a 3208 cat and that was the only way to start it on a cold morning. Also had a Yanmar tractor that you would have to do it too if it was hot and you went to restart it. Oh and had an 85 chevy with a 6.2 the fuel pump was weak and wouldn't build the pressure to fire, a squirt in the intake and she was off to the races...
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Sam mac I've had plenty of diesel experience. From tractors to trucks. You are right and wrong, you can indeed spritz fuel through the intake to get them to run. Had a Ford with a 3208 cat and that was the only way to start it on a cold morning. Also had a Yanmar tractor that you would have to do it too if it was hot and you went to restart it. Oh and had an 85 chevy with a 6.2 the fuel pump was weak and wouldn't build the pressure to fire, a squirt in the intake and she was off to the races...
On an IDI..... I could maybe see this working. On a DI, like the 3208..... eh, I'm thinking luck. Hand more to do with crank time than fuel in the intake.

I still think you may be in for $$$ repairs, but maybe your one of those "lucky" guys. May just be bad glow plugs. Good luck.
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This one has two pumps a small in line on the left side near the battery. And another on the block, the drive line seems near perfect I didn't drive it but it did run fine and that smell of the smoker is what solidified the deal for me...


Sam mac I've had plenty of diesel experience. From tractors to trucks. You are right and wrong, you can indeed spritz fuel through the intake to get them to run. Had a Ford with a 3208 cat and that was the only way to start it on a cold morning. Also had a Yanmar tractor that you would have to do it too if it was hot and you went to restart it. Oh and had an 85 chevy with a 6.2 the fuel pump was weak and wouldn't build the pressure to fire, a squirt in the intake and she was off to the races...
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If you say so. Guess I know nothing about diesels.
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If you say so. Guess I know nothing about diesels.
So starting fluid in diesels isn't supposed to work? Hmm you've caught my attention. I want to know more!! haha

I ask because the farm I work on, the old Ford loader they use for snow moving is a cold/slow cranker so the farmer keeps on a can of starting fluid on it (for use during the winter only). If that's now what is making it fire off, I'll stop using it!
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Here are some pics of the pump / no pump. Jimbob, read the link I posted. Pretty scary stuff.
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A diesel won't run off ether alone, there has to be some diesel fuel in the cylinder or its a no go.
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So starting fluid in diesels isn't supposed to work? Hmm you've caught my attention. I want to know more!! haha

I ask because the farm I work on, the old Ford loader they use for snow moving is a cold/slow cranker so the farmer keeps on a can of starting fluid on it (for use during the winter only). If that's now what is making it fire off, I'll stop using it!
On big diesels in cold weather sometimes it's the only way to get them going as long as it's used sparingly. I used plenty of it my self on old Cummins to get them going.
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On big diesels in cold weather sometimes it's the only way to get them going as long as it's used sparingly. I used plenty of it my self on old Cummins to get them going.
Phew, ok. All we'd ever do is give a couple spritzes to the air cleaner, just enough to "richen" things up so to speak
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A diesel won't run off ether alone, there has to be some diesel fuel in the cylinder or its a no go.
Oh, yes they will. If you use enough. Done it.
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