2182 Question - Page 2

Jibber · #11 10-31-2016, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jibber

So, are you saying that the screw with the spring IS the pilot screw and is the only way to adjust the carb?

I am going to say that the screw with the spring is the pilot screw. The diagram in the manual is not an accurate description of what the carb actually looks like. I fired up my 2182 this morning and ran it for 10 minutes with no issues. I adjusted the screw with the spring some and it definitely affects the performance. After warming it up I set the engine to idle. I then messed with the pilot screw some. I wanted to make it a tad richer. I went too rich at first and when I would give it full throttle kinda fast the engine would hesitate a tad. I then turned the pilot screw in to make it more lean until the engine would throttle up with no hesitation. While running the 2182 for a few minutes the fuel light came on again. Am going to add some more gas today and see if the initial symptoms weren't caused by not enough fuel in tank.

The issues started when I was mowing and turning alot. The little bit of gas could have been swishing around and not getting sucked in by the fuel pump. Also, when I let it set for a few minutes it would run good again.

Step 1: Add more gas!

J-Mech · #12 10-31-2016, 09:36 AM

I have a hard time believing that the issue is low fuel..... if so, why the hell wouldn't you have tried that before consulting the forum?

Jibber · #13 10-31-2016, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech

I have a hard time believing that the issue is low fuel..... if so, why the hell wouldn't you have tried that before consulting the forum?

Because I added some fuel (3/4 gallon - all I had in my gas can) after it started showing the initial symptoms so I figured that low fuel wasn't the issue since I added some. My low fuel light wasn't on after I added gas so I assumed low fuel wasn't the cause. I am filling up my gas can over lunch and will add it and see if that was the issue.

Let me explain. I consulted the forum yesterday in the middle of me using my 2182 because I needed to finish my neighbors and my lawn/leaves and I thought I would see if anyone on the forum ever experienced similar issues. I added a little gas so I didn't think low fuel was the cause.

Does this answer your question?? Or do you need further explanation?

J-Mech · #14 10-31-2016, 10:47 AM

Well, how about this.... every time I've ever ran anything very low or out of fuel it causes "issues". I don't know why, but things just won't run without it.

Terry C · #15 10-31-2016, 11:05 AM

[QUOTE=Jibber;397987]So, are you saying that the screw with the spring IS the pilot screw and is the only way to adjust the carb?[/QUOTE

Yes. Maybe the float level can be adjusted but that's all I think

Learning from what I've read here, I replaced everything that had to do with getting
the fuel to the carb. Lines and filters shutoff valves,pump,etc. I'm not one for messing around with old fuel related items.

Jibber · #16 10-31-2016, 11:36 AM

[QUOTE=Terry C;397996]

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Originally Posted by Jibber

So, are you saying that the screw with the spring IS the pilot screw and is the only way to adjust the carb?[/QUOTE

Yes. Maybe the float level can be adjusted but that's all I think

Learning from what I've read here, I replaced everything that had to do with getting
the fuel to the carb. Lines and filters shutoff valves,pump,etc. I'm not one for messing around with old fuel related items.

Ok, thanks. Yes, I have replaced everything except fuel pump. I will report back my findings once I try a few more things.

taylorjm · #17 10-31-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech

I have a hard time believing that the issue is low fuel..... if so, why the hell wouldn't you have tried that before consulting the forum?

Ya know, I'm new here too, but I'm going to say it. J-Mech you have a very condescending attitude towards everybody that doesn't possess the same knowledge that you appear to have. Personally, I have found it easy to just ignore your posts up until now, but I'm really trying to decide if it's worth staying in this forum because you tend to make personal attacks against people that don't try things that you assume to be an easy fix. Saying "why the hell wouldn't you have tried that before consulting the forum" is a prime example. I see you are a moderator, which surprises me. I would think a moderator would try to lead by example.

Sam Mac · #18 10-31-2016, 12:16 PM

For some reason I'm seeing a rash of 2182 carb issues lately. Not sure what's up with that. Having had two 2182 I'll try to offer a few suggestions.
1: 1st the low fuel light on a Cyclops normally doesn't come on till your down to about a Gal. remaining in the tank.
2: The screw with the spring is the slow speed jet, normally doesn't have much effect over idle.
3: I'm wondering if you have a low voltage issue and maybe the pump isn't pumping enough fuel, or as much as I doubt it maybe the solenoid on the bottom of the carb is trying to shut off from low voltage. The Kubotas are somewhat challenged in the charging department.
4: Wondering if maybe you have some junk in the fuel inlet to the carb? Even though you have replaced the fuel lines, tank bushings, cleaned the shut off valves, it's possible that some crap got into the inlet to the carb. You may need to remove the carb and the float then blow compressed air through the seat for the needle to clean it out. Just had that issue on an engine for my Flail mower.
5: Thanks to EPA these things are jetted very lean. If you have some small drills you may want to open up the main jet by using 1 size larger drill than will slip through the jet.
6: I removed the shut off solenoids on my 2182's, drilled the bolt that holds the fuel bowl on and plugged it with a 3/8" freeze plug. See pics.
7: One last thought, how old is the gas in this thing? You may have some water in it. The carb has a drain on the bottom of the float bowl, open it and see what comes out.

Jibber · #19 10-31-2016, 02:11 PM

Thank you for the input Sam. I installed a brand new carb a few days ago.

Here is an update.

So, I stopped and got some gas and put about 2 gallons of fresh gas in tank. Ran good for 5 - 10 minutes. Tried to run it a little hard under load. It then started struggling so I turned off pto and lowered the throttle some. It surged a little as well. I then took side panel off and then started running it again. After about 5 minutes it started struggling so I turned off pto and immediately pulled the fuel line from carb and it seemed to be pumping gas ok. It wasn't a constant stream but was coming out heavy in squirts. I then shut off engine, reconnected fuel line and got it to run good for a while. It did it again after about 10 minutes so I turned of pto, the engine surged ( up and down, up and down), and pulled the fuel line again and the engine still surged with the fuel line disconnected. The fuel pump seemed to be pumping enough fuel as fuel was still pumping out of the fuel line. Again, wasn't a constant flow but sprayed out pretty heavily. So I used it another 5 - 10 minutes and it acted up again and the engine surged again and then I turned it off. After a few minutes it started and ran fine again. Very strange. I am just confused why it runs well for a while and then starts acting up. If the fuel/air ratio was incorrect, wouldn't it run rough all of the time?

Jibber · #20 10-31-2016, 03:08 PM

What is the correct gap for the spark plugs in the 2182? I did clean and re-gap the plugs during this tune-up. If I remember correctly, I think I re-gapped them to .043. I think they were gapped less than this so I had to open them up. I wonder if me messing with the spark plugs had anything to do with my issues?