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Old 06-06-2018, 05:04 PM
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Went to the Gas Station yesterday, and filled my 5 Gallon Fuel Can with gas for the lawn equipment. Today, I was going to mow some lawn and topped off my 784. As I was filling the tank, I noticed the fuel coming out of the can "seemed" awful clear, instead of the caramel color I am accustom to. I probably put about 2.0 to 2.5 gallons in the 4 gallon fuel tank of the 784. Started the tractor up and went to mow lawn. Within 10 minutes, I noticed a slight "miss" in the engine. The miss got progressively worse, especially under load. The miss went to a "coughing condition" and the engine has lost a substantial amount of horse power. Now the exhaust looks normal.

Could that "clear" fuel that I got, be Kerosene....??? Would the conditions I am experiencing reinforce that..???
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I would come nearer to thinking it was water.... but only because so many places don't carry Kerosene anymore, and most standard bulk tankers have gasoline and diesel in them. Even "clear" diesel has a color to it.

If hot, a spark plug engine will burn diesel or kerosene, but have a substantial power loss. Can cough and sputter.... but it should be smoking black. It just can't burn the fuel. Water if mixed with gas will kind of burn..... but it will backfire a lot. But I mean really *BANG* when it does. Distillate fuel will make it cough and sputter, but it won't backfire like water will.

Either way, sounds like bad gas to me. If you have any left, but it in a clear glass container and let it sit. If it is water it should separate out. Even if it has Kerosene in it, it will separate over time. If the tank the 782 isn't completely full, shine a flashlight down in the tank... if there is water in it, you will see it at the bottom. But I know from experience the tank has to be at least 1/2 full or less, or you just can't see the bottom.
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when I was a kid I worked in a service station nights and weekends for a couple of bucks an hour punkpin gas. the Joke was that ol Jerry dumped bout fitty gallon of watter in the tanks the nite bfore the tanker showed up jes to add a little phat to his diet. Yo been to Wormtown lately?
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when I was a kid I worked in a service station nights and weekends for a couple of bucks an hour punkpin gas. the Joke was that ol Jerry dumped bout fitty gallon of watter in the tanks the nite bfore the tanker showed up jes to add a little phat to his diet. Yo been to Wormtown lately?

Have you ever used a stick to measure how much gas is in the in ground tank? They have some stuff that you put on it to measure the amount of water in the bottom of the tank. Anything less then an inch of water in the tank is acceptable. That's more then 55 gallons in most tanks.
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If theres a chance it could be E85 check out this video. Pretty good explanation on E85 fuel and some fun with FIRE!!! lol.. Be safe if you try this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o5D-nic9WM
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Went to the Gas Station yesterday, and filled my 5 Gallon Fuel Can with gas for the lawn equipment. Today, I was going to mow some lawn and topped off my 784. As I was filling the tank, I noticed the fuel coming out of the can "seemed" awful clear, instead of the caramel color I am accustom to. I probably put about 2.0 to 2.5 gallons in the 4 gallon fuel tank of the 784. Started the tractor up and went to mow lawn. Within 10 minutes, I noticed a slight "miss" in the engine. The miss got progressively worse, especially under load. The miss went to a "coughing condition" and the engine has lost a substantial amount of horse power. Now the exhaust looks normal.

Could that "clear" fuel that I got, be Kerosene....??? Would the conditions I am experiencing reinforce that..???
By any chance does your station sell E85? I hope you didn't mistakingly get that. Im guessing you have already drained out whatever it was you got.

You would smell the difference between gas and Kero pretty easily I would think
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