Firearms discussions

[jbrewer]

Originally Posted by johncub7172

That's the one I'd get too! Love the IH for sure. But, I've since been addicted the FN FAL rifles..

Ive snagged 3 of those over the years. One a Century build on an Imbel receiver from about 1995 or so, another is an Israeli Heavy Barrel and another just a parts set mutt chopped to 16".

Guns and Tractors....they DO go together!

[finsruskw]

Huge gun auction this weekend, Dec 8th.
Earlville, IA 52041

https://www.harrylahrauctions.com/de...h-auction.html

[jbrewer]

There's some nice guns in there and other fun stuff....

[green 4 acres]

AR 15 s just took a big climb in price ....dont ya think any gun for that matter.
a state court has ruled that gun manuf
Can be sued when killers use their guns .0

[Sooner]

Have one of those “tractor Garands” manufactured in Evansville,IN about 64 years ago. I just happened to see this thread. Wow, tractors and firearms!!

[ol'George]

Came across this,
interesting how things look different when put in perspective:
FWIW
I did not check out validity, just cut/paste.
if this is inappropriate or the wrong place, mods please do your thing.

Gun death Statistics to share with everyone....

Interesting statistics! This also jives with the research of Prof. Lott at the University of Chicago, who is a noted expert on gun laws and stats. Here are some facts.

There are 30,000 gun related death s per year by firearms; this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws.
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified.
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence.
3% are accidental discharge deaths.

So technically, “gun violence” is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So, if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assaults are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).

Now it gets good:
200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So, what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.).

A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ……………. Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions! So, you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns?

It’s pretty simple:
Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs . So, the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed.”

[cooperino]

Originally Posted by ol'George

It’s pretty simple:
Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs . So, the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed.”

I know this is not the prayer section but... AMEN TO THAT BROTHER!!!

[Sam Mac]

Two comments

1: guns don't kill people, people kill people

2: No such thing as an "Assault Rifle" rifles do not assault anyone, people assault people.

[cooperino]

Picked up a Marlin XT22 10-22 today. It will be for my son to learn with. He will be taking a safety course with it at the local indoor range next weekend. Its a 22 Bolt with clip single action. It was normally $199 but Dicks had it on sale for $134. Not a bad deal. Pretty decent quality for an inexpensive starter rifle. I like Remington and Winchester for long guns myself but I could not pass this one up.

[West Valley G]

Raised my children on Marlin short barrel 22's. they make a fine rifle
to get your youngins going. And at that price they make a really fine
rifle.

Ken