Electric PTO Woes

[PaulS]

I was thinking of making a wooden support aka a wood ring with a hole big enough for the bearing to slip through. My thinking is to support the pulley but allow me to make some more solid hits to dislodge the offending part. I will try the holding in one hand and hitting with the other.

[CADplans]

Those 3 peened areas convinced me I would damage the pulley if I started pushing/hitting.

I ground them off-completely!!

After changing the bearing I re-peened three new spots.

I wish I had thought of using a 3M liquid to install the new bearing, that would have been easier.

[PaulS]

Last evening after finishing our 102 and getting it all repaired and back together EricR and I had at the bearing in the 2084s pto. We got the bearing to start out with EricR holding it and me tapping on a socket sitting on the inside of the bearing. We then cut a hole in a piece of 3/4 inch plywood a little larger than the bearing and got the offending bearing removed fairly easily without any damage to the pulley. Now to find a replacement and get it installed and the pto adjusted and reinstalled after a bit of front engine cleanup.

[PaulS]

Update: This morning I managed to get the grease and gunk cleaned off the front of the engine on my 2084. At noon I called the shop and my new bearing is in so Off to Milesburg Auto Electric and was pleasantly surprised to find it cost just a little over $15 and the inner race even turns. Now to get the bearing back into the PTO this evening and get everything back together.

[PaulS]

It Works!!! Eric and I tapped the new bearing into place and reassembled the pto, and set the air gap at .015 and strapped enough parts back on the tractor to start it. With all your help we are back in business the pto works just fine. Thanks to all. Anyone else have trouble getting the exhaust bolts tight on a command 20.

[Sam Mac]

Paul

Don't know about getting the bolts tight but they were a PITA getting off on the CH22 I'm working on. Thinking about welding a flat bar to a 13MM socket to get at the two inner nuts. Had to take all the tin work and controls off to get a wrench on them. I'd love to see what they use at the factory.

Sam

[Matt G.]

Originally Posted by PaulS

It Works!!! Eric and I tapped the new bearing into place and reassembled the pto, and set the air gap at .015 and strapped enough parts back on the tractor to start it. With all your help we are back in business the pto works just fine. Thanks to all. Anyone else have trouble getting the exhaust bolts tight on a command 20.

Is it that you can't get access to them to tighten them, or that they won't tighten? If it's the latter, it's probably time for a helicoil.

[PaulS]

Our problem with tightening or for that matter loosening the exhaust is getting any sort of wrench on the inside nuts. The exhaust comes out and near immediately makes a 90 degree turn into the muffler. With the exhaust tube, the muffler, and the choke and gas cables just above it poses a real problem getting both the inner nuts tight. We tried every wrench I had and every socket but there is very little room to use a wrench and too much of an angle due to the exhaust pipe to use a socket. Our only knuckle sockets were for 1/4 inch drive and not enough beef to get the nut tight enough. Those nuts have to be tight or they leak but are in such a position they are near impossible to get tight. I believe we began to refer to them as the nuts from Hades. If they do not hold tight we are planning on putting lock washers on them next time.

[Sam Mac]

Paul

Yep same issue I had getting them off. I think I can make something that will make the job easier because I have 2 of these that I have to put back together. I'll keep you posted.

[Matt G.]

I don't recall having the problem with the CH18 on my 582...do you have offset box-end wrenches?