which tractor is bigger JD 830D or IH 660D

[CADplans]

Originally Posted by red56turbo

I'm a Farmall/IH guy. John Deere saw the writing on the wall with the two cylinders, that's why the 830 was the last two cylinder.

The unique thing about the JD 2 cylinders was fuel economy. The 830 was generating 17-18 horsepower-hours per gallon, while the other 4 and 6 cylinder engines were producing 12-14 horsepower-hours per gallon or even less!

Doing 40-50% more with the same amount of fuel meant a lot when you could not get diesel!!

There were several stories about farmers in the early 1980's parking their new tractors, and buying restored JD 820's for field work, just because of how little fuel was required.

I do not have the exact #'s, but, my BIL would dump 3 five gallon cans of fuel in the 820 after lunch, and I would run that tractor the rest of the day pulling a 4 bottom plow.

The 4630 would have gone an hour and 20 minutes with that much fuel. (11 gallons per hour!)

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...820-tests.html

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...660-tests.html

[Shaner]

before you go slandering the two cylinder john deere engine....watch this video. i was impressed. i do like those old Farmalls, wish i still had the H that i had. they were very fun tractors to tool around on. i had a super M with a snow plow on it for a brief time too. never got a chance to play with it though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hAFwBQ3iTxE

[red56turbo]

I didn't slander the deere. Just stating the 2 cylinder was becoming obsolete. John Deere did pretty well with the next generation tractors: 4010's etc., that replaced the two cylinders. First tractor I restored was a fence row 1950 John Deere B. Dad still has the B, a wartime A, hand start D , and the 730D. He also has a lot of IH's.

The old saying was with a pair of pliers, screwdriver, and roll of wire, a farmer could keep a two cylinder running for years..............

Cad,
There are a lot of two cylinders still out there being used on the farms. I also see a lot of old Farmalls running augers, pulling wagons, etc. Dad's 730 does sip the fuel. My 782D sips the fuel, too LOL! You could pretty much fit the whole Kubota engine inside of one cylinder in an 830!! Kinda funny.

[Mr.Goffena]

Im not going to lie I do love the 820 830 JDs. They are truly a force to be reckoned with. But I did grow up driving one.

[cubcadet]

the 600 diesel i have pulled 17 blocks that are about 800 pounds each and the sled is 2200lbs, the 660 pulled 21 blocks that are about 800 pounds each, but on saturday the stick shifter locked up but we fixed it , it pulls pretty good

[cubcadet]

ok we had the stick shifter welded up on the 660 and grinded back down, last weekend we added more weight to the back then borrowed more weight frome the JD 830, we pulled 22 blocks both days, the 660 took second place as there were not any really big tractors , the JD would of won but we pulled every block barely that they had out and that was 22 blocks, they usually have at least 30 blocks, TA works good and the front end was coming up, heres my brother and our friend pulling on my 660, i have a pic of it pulling up to 21 blocks, dont have a pic of 22 blocks but it pulled it half way, then they hooked the 830 to the other end of the sled but it couldnt pull it lol heres my friend on the 660

[cubcadet]

here he is again on the 660

[cubcadet]

blocks are about 800lbs each

[cubcadet]

my brother on the 660

[cubcadet]

my brother doing a wheelie while pulling the sled