1641 with some issues

[neilh419]

Sorry for a second post, but am I safe to assume it is not the battery? If it's very low, would it not be able to turn anything?

[J-Mech]

You sure the PTO switch isn't on?........

[neilh419]

The PTO switch is off. If I turn the key to on, I can flip the PTO switch, and it will click. Then it clicks again when I turn it off, pretty normal. Unless somehow the PTO is messed up at the front of the mower, and is causing it to not start. Maybe if I pull it off, and try to start it, I might find the issue?

[Sam Mac]

PM me with your e-mail address and I'll send you the Cyclops service manual. Think it will be helpful to you.

[bugeye]

I have had similar starting circuit difficulty. I have found poor electrical contacts within the black fuse holder near the battery and at the starter switch. My issues have been random so I hope I have finally found the responsible connections.

[neilh419]

I might need to clean up my connections, as the oil that had been all over had left things pretty grimey.

That being said, I checked out the wiring diagram, and was looking at the PTO chain. I thought it could be the relay, or the switch. Then I looked at the starting chain. The solenoid below the battery was the culprit. It may be going. I figured I tap on it (heck, it's worked on my car...). Sure enough, fired right up! Not sure my neighbors appreciated me mowing after dark though.

It appears that when I am starting, the PTO disengage light does light up until the tractor starts. Like a basic dummy light. Or maybe, I'm the dummy.

[Batt4Christ]

Originally Posted by RPorter

and for sure don't want to knock ethanol, as I do use it in my buick, but I believe it can cause these problems with rubber lines, thanks, Rich

Why not? ethanol is the worst thing to happen to internal combustion engines - especially those with a carb! Further, the mandate for its use is nothing but political, as research and just plain reality play out that it does nothing to help the environment (and indeed results in LOWER efficiency) - so its basically an ugly scam...

But - that being said, one can use some the ethanol fuel stabilizers and at least mostly mitigate any further damage. But yes, rubber is particularly damaged by alcohols.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by Batt4Christ

Why not? ethanol is the worst thing to happen to internal combustion engines - especially those with a carb! Further, the mandate for its use is nothing but political, as research and just plain reality play out that it does nothing to help the environment (and indeed results in LOWER efficiency) - so its basically an ugly scam...

But - that being said, one can use some the ethanol fuel stabilizers and at least mostly mitigate any further damage. But yes, rubber is particularly damaged by alcohols.

Your a new member I see, so please bear with me...... but you have no idea what your talking about. You read too much on the internet.


It may in fact have been shoved down our throats, but the fact remains that we found an alternative to gasoline and, like it or not, it's here to stay.

I also want to point out, this is a year old thread......