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Old 06-26-2018, 10:17 PM
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George, it doesn't matter how young or old you are, that body seam is right in the way!! That one bolt is the only one that is near impossible to get at. Wanna know where it ends up after I get it out? If I ever find them I'll let you know!! 5 bolts will hold the trans in. Dowels hold it anyway.

4L80E uses a gear pump. They have a double flat ("tang") drive with an offset. If you put the gear in backwards, when you bolt the T/C to the flex plate, it pulls out of the pump drive tangs. No spinny, spinny.
I switched to a paying job for the rest of the day. The trans is on my truck. Maybe tomorrow I'll feel like pulling it out again. If you guys are interested, I'll give the outcome in another thread.... we derailed this one enough, lol.
Sorry for the derailment, don't know why they went back to the top bolt again anyway.
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no problem on the derailment... Well, I went and picked up the Cub today. When we got there, He told me I wouldn't be able to push it on. I asked why, and he said I'd have to drive it. Long story short, he said he couldn't figure it out, and finally, took off the tunnel cover, and for some reason hit the top of the transmission, and the wheel moved a little. He moved the lever a few times, and it took off. he mowed a few passes in his yard with it.

So, my summation, is that the pump still just wasn't primed, and maybe that made something move? honestly not sure. To talk with him he definitely seems to know what he's doing. He works on all kinds, and is an IH guy. Here's a picture of the spring.
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Glad it’s going again!
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Sometimes we find things we just can't explain. Looks to be the same size as a charge pump relief spring. But the way they are installed, they can't get into the inside of the case. No idea where it came from or how it got there. But... if it had came out of your hydro pump, it wouldn't work, so it didn't come out of it.
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I had a tractor here once that had 4 funnels and two gloves inside the fuel tank. Maybe the spring got in there when somebody was filling the rearend.
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I had a tractor here once that had 4 funnels and two gloves inside the fuel tank. Maybe the spring got in there when somebody was filling the rearend.
Were the gloves a matching pair?
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Were the gloves a matching pair?
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In other news, he had these in the garage, also. For some reason it keeps uploading sideways. His buddy pulls the pulling IH with the 582.
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I agree with J-Mech, the pump wouldn't work if it was missing any of the springs. How it ended up in the case, I don't know. This shows the springs in a 1641 pump.
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I agree with J-Mech, the pump wouldn't work if it was missing any of the springs. How it ended up in the case, I don't know. This shows the springs in a 1641 pump.
Dang, that's right. The 1641 had the HG pump. It has more springs than the SS unit. But even still, the answer is the same.
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