Sherwin Williams Acrylic Enamel Cub 125 Colors

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by olds45512

Now that I'm at work I did a little research on paint price and here's what I found. A gallon of yellow in ppg is $356 according to the computer, that price is what it cost me to mix it in house so if you were to walk into a ppg dealer the price would be closer to $425 or $450. Just last week we had a valspar system installed, the valspar I'm spraying is much higher end than the valspar that comes in the case/ih cans. For me to mix a gallon of yellow in valspar single stage it's about $252 which would be closer to $300 from a dealer. These prices are just for paint and do not include hardener, activator and reducer, buy the time you buy all that your looking at another $100 to $150. While I agree with Jon that there are better paints available I don't think there worth all the extra money when your painting a garden tractor, these tractors will never be worth what you put into them so using $600 plus worth of paint inst worth it.

I'm not going to disagree with anything you said.

I just want to say that while it isn't worth buying $600 worth of material to paint one Cub, a gallon should do at least two. If you store the supplies like they should, the shelf life should be at least a couple years, if not longer. I know I've grabbed paint I had on the shelf that was older than that and it was still fine. So, if $600 can do two, that's $300 per machine. Now, Nason (my personal brand of choice) isn't quite that expensive, or at least last gallon I bought was more like $200 maybe $250 a gallon (depending on color and type). By the time you get supplies, you'll have about $300 maybe just a bit more.... but again, that should do two machines. So, now your at $150-$175 per machine. Back to Ironguard. At $60/gal, plus material, your at at least $100-$125 per machine..... so, is it worth it to spend $50-$75 more at the far end to use better paint? In my mind, yes. Is it as easy to shoot...... no. But it is just so much better. That's where I'm coming from.

[olds45512]

If you can paint two cubs with one gallon of paint then you must be some kind of wizard, yellow covers horribly regardless of brand and I usually put on 5 coats to get good coverage even with the expensive paint. I see alot of cubs at shows where you can see through the paint to the primer but the average person probably can't see it, those must be the guys that can paint there cub with two quarts.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by olds45512

If you can paint two cubs with one gallon of paint then you must be some kind of wizard, yellow covers horribly regardless of brand and I usually put on 5 coats to get good coverage even with the expensive paint. I see alot of cubs at shows where you can see through the paint to the primer but the average person probably can't see it, those must be the guys that can paint there cub with two quarts.

Last color I shot was red. I haven't used "good" paint to shoot a yellow one, so I default to you.

[tbone]

I am sure glad you guys mentioned how much paint you use when painting a Cub. If it takes you a gallon no telling how many gallons it is going to take a rookie like me to paint my Cub.

[J-Mech]

I did shoot Caterpillar yellow with Nason. I just thought of that. But I don't recall how much I went through. It was just for an engine out of a dozer, but for a rebuild at over $20,000, I wanted it to look like it was worth the price.

[tbone]

Dozers and Cub Cadets. J-Mech you have toys in all sizes.

[olds45512]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

I did shoot Caterpillar yellow with Nason. I just thought of that. But I don't recall how much I went through. It was just for an engine out of a dozer, but for a rebuild at over $20,000, I wanted it to look like it was worth the price.

cat yellow might actually have good coverage because of the amount of black that's in it, any of the brighter yellows suck. gm has that yellow they put on the cavaliers and some other stuff and i hate when they come in, the last one i did took 8 coats to get coverage. to the naked eye it looked fine but i have a special light that replicates sunlight that i use in the booth to help me determine if i have full coverage, it wasn't until i got to 7 coats that it looked good and i put the 8th on to ensure i didn't back it outside and get pissed off.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by olds45512

cat yellow might actually have good coverage because of the amount of black that's in it, any of the brighter yellows suck. gm has that yellow they put on the cavaliers and some other stuff and i hate when they come in, the last one i did took 8 coats to get coverage. to the naked eye it looked fine but i have a special light that replicates sunlight that i use in the booth to help me determine if i have full coverage, it wasn't until i got to 7 coats that it looked good and i put the 8th on to ensure i didn't back it outside and get pissed off.

I have a good buddy who owns an auto shop. He has told me about the yellow GM used. He said the same thing you did, 7 or 8 coats before you couldn't still see primer. He HATES it also, so your in good company!

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by tbone

Dozers and Cub Cadets. J-Mech you have toys in all sizes.

No, no. I used to own and run a shop. We specialized in heavy equipment, but also worked on cars, trucks.... ok, so we would work on anything that paid, but my "specialty" was heavy equipment. The Cat motor was a paying job.

But I do have a lot of toys.... but sold the "bigger" ones ..... for now.

[Oak]

What the heck are you guys spraying? I spray PPG Shop-Line paint that cost somewhere between $40 & $50 a quart + the reducer & hardener which isn't that much more. I never could understand that they don't discount the paint if you buy more. I can buy (4) quart cans or (1) gallon can for the same price. A quart of epoxy primer and pint of hardener runs $48.00 out the door and I think the 2k primer is a little cheaper. I agree, yellow paint doesn't cover well. I think it takes me a quart to spray a deck but I spray outside with a pos Ingersoll Rand HVLP gun.
I'm not knocking the Iron-guard paint, I just don't have a dealer near me and I would have to have it shipped to me which sounds like a PITA.

Tim & J, I highly respect both of what you guys add to this site and I'm not disagreeing with either of you but I just wanted to throw out there my (limited)experience I have had spraying paint.