Idiots hauling stuff.

[finsruskw]

FWIW...If I am not mistaken, in the real world of trucking, the shipper bears some responsibility if a truck leaves his facility known to be overloaded with the load they put on the truck.

I'm not saying this is the case here though.

Many times, I had to have freight removed from my rig due to weights not having been as stated on the BOL. Some mills will not let you out the gate if the load they place on your rig is not properly secured, protected from the weather and at or below legal GVW according to the scale ticket upon departure. Many states allow a small % over weight. In the case of a rig w/an operable installed APU, it is supposed to be 400#.

For example: the coil they place on your wagon is tagged 48K and your empty weight is 30 or 31K and change, but when you pull on the scale, you are at 81,540 or so. 1540# over gross!! PLUS, in most cases, you will not get paid for the extra weight over the BOL weight upon delivery, provided you make it that far.

Pay attn. to what's going on behind the DOT weigh stations next time you pass by one. Many times there will be a huge wrecker back there, repositioning freight on a trailer or even off loading it because the rig cannot legally haul it.
Believe me, you do not want to be in that predicament.
Go figure, Lawyers love these numbers, if the worst happens and you and/or the mill/shipper is found negligent.

[green 4 acres]

maybe he was really heading to Mexico anyway ( I guess it got there though)

There was a guy here that had a Ivco 1 1/2 or 2 ton truck ( one set of duals ) he put a 5th wheel on the back and decided he /it could haul a 45' steel semi bed ,drove to work ?
I never saw anything on the bed maybe he had it to put weight on the rear ?
the truck weighs 7000 ? the trailor 18000 ?

anyway downtown one day I see the KC cops truck enforcement van stop him ... the officer just standing back and shaking his head and taking a phone pic ... like they guys down at the station just aren't going to believe this one

[Sam Mac]

Guys play safe. If your hauling it make sure it is properly tied down and that your not over loaded. If your on the road and see something sketchy be careful. Lots of crazy stuff on the road these days.

[stimpy]

Originally Posted by finsruskw

FWIW...If I am not mistaken, in the real world of trucking, the shipper bears some responsibility if a truck leaves his facility known to be overloaded with the load they put on the truck.

I'm not saying this is the case here though.

Many times, I had to have freight removed from my rig due to weights not having been as stated on the BOL. Some mills will not let you out the gate if the load they place on your rig is not properly secured, protected from the weather and at or below legal GVW according to the scale ticket upon departure. Many states allow a small % over weight. In the case of a rig w/an operable installed APU, it is supposed to be 400#.

For example: the coil they place on your wagon is tagged 48K and your empty weight is 30 or 31K and change, but when you pull on the scale, you are at 81,540 or so. 1540# over gross!! PLUS, in most cases, you will not get paid for the extra weight over the BOL weight upon delivery, provided you make it that far.

Pay attn. to what's going on behind the DOT weigh stations next time you pass by one. Many times there will be a huge wrecker back there, repositioning freight on a trailer or even off loading it because the rig cannot legally haul it.
Believe me, you do not want to be in that predicament.
Go figure, Lawyers love these numbers, if the worst happens and you and/or the mill/shipper is found negligent.

legally no, the trucker once the BOL and load is in his posession assumes the responsability unless, a loaders ship and count ( LS&C ) or loaders responsibility claim ( signed it was loaded without driver present a.k.a. preloaded ) is made on it . and once the B.O.l is signed by the driver its his responsibility and his insurances property till recieved and signed off ( its a writ of posession ) . in court the shipper can be sued , but by law its the driver who has the last say on how its loaded .

I have refused to allow people to load what I called dangerous freight on my truck , I rather loose the load pay than file a accident claim or have to get a tow truck to put the load back on the truck . this is the reason why DOT is now going after the midnight trucking companies , many people who have trailers do not know whats required , ( specially when crossing state lines in some states you can be charged with grand theft if not in posession of the title or a notorized BOS) its more than I got a truck and trailer and personal insurance , and the horror stories of damaged freight , no freight ,stolen goods , being sued as part of a accident caused by a driver who is not insured or neglegent ( not securing the load to DOT standards of 1 chain or rated strap per 10K ( 2 device minimum required ) rated straps and chains ..
if your name is on it and its involved in a accident guess what?.. the lawyer is going to come after you too ...


if your the hauler then the state/fed will nail your butt to the wall for no legal authorities , road taxes , plates ,business licenses, and other taxes .. if your doing it as favor , never mention money or compensation as thats what puts you in a For -hire ( commercial and if out of state , federal rules apply ) and just because its a pick up doesn't mean you dont get inspected either .. they go after them with a fine tooth comb ..

(speaking as 26 years doing business (IL/MC USDOT ) as O/O and company owner its not a easy thing to do ... )

[CADplans]

That tractor,,,, was intended to be damaged JUST as it crosses the border,,,

The tires are then "loaded",, and the tractor is "returned" for repair..
that is,,, repaired, after the tires are unloaded,,,,

Those rear tires are MUCH better than a VW spare!!

After the repair,, the tractor "cycle" starts again,,,
it probably has 39 coats of paint on it!!

[Leadslingingdaddy]

Hmmmm CBP where are ya...?

[finsruskw]

You nailed it Stimpy!
That's why I prefixed my post the way I did.
Better safe than sorry, for sure.

You still OTR???

[stimpy]

Originally Posted by finsruskw

You nailed it Stimpy!
That's why I prefixed my post the way I did.
Better safe than sorry, for sure.

You still OTR???

Nope , at home desk jockey now .. medical got me 4 years ago.

[DoubleO7]

hope you got paid in full before letting it go

[finsruskw]

Stimpy, been off 5 years in April
Had a good run, 30 yrs w/CRST, flat and stepdeck
Still talk to a few of the guys each week or so.
Take Care!