Deer proofing your garden

[red211]

Originally Posted by Iluvtruks0

I over heard an old man talking with his buddy just the other week about keeping out those pesky deer. He said he FINALLY figured it out. He said to just place a container of your own urine at the end and sides of the garden. Every other day changing it out with some fresh P, and he hasnt had a single varmint anywhere near his garden. I cannot confirm that this works, but he said it was the best thing he has ever used.

Let us know how this works for ya! I will stick with the liquid fence till you confirm it.

[Iluvtruks0]

Originally Posted by red211

Let us know how this works for ya! I will stick with the liquid fence till you confirm it.

Well he was dead set on it being the best trick he had ever found. I do not have a garden so I cant personally confirm it from my own experience. The old man sure seemed to believe in it

[ACecil]

We learn something all the time, David!

[red211]

Originally Posted by Iluvtruks0

Well he was dead set on it being the best trick he had ever found. I do not have a garden so I cant personally confirm it from my own experience. The old man sure seemed to believe in it

I'm not sure how the wife would take some stinkin pee when she wandered down to pick some tomatoes. I guess it's better than no tomatoes after the big rats get a hold of em. The pepper mix didn't work for the guy with the mater patch. He is going for an ultrasonic setup if he can get the cash to buy one. He has a radio at his patch and when he left it on all night, no deer.

[Mountain Heritage]

Well, I am back to this problem again this spring. My "invisable" fence that I put up last year worked GREAT! Until.....the darn ice rain came this winter. After about 3 or 4 days of getting rain on and off, it did a nice job on my fence! About 3/4 of it is on the ground. Ripped it right out of the steeples in the nice tall wooden posts I put up last year. SOOOOO.... I am thinking now that I have these nice TALL posts stuck in my yard....I might try the electric fence again....put up about 4 or 5 strands. Maybe put the first one about 2 feet or so off the ground so the dog & cat can walk under it without getting zapped and make them ALL live! Have the wire, but I am sure the darn insulators will cost me a $100 or more! Not really sure. I like the black invisable fence, but if the ice takes it down, it ends up being a pretty expensive, pain staking task to put up new each year.

[CADplans]

I tried electric fence, works great until you have a dry spell.

Then they walk right through it.

My new fence is treated lumber and steel.



We left the gate open once in the fall a few years back, a deer got in and could not get out.

I had to go in the garden and "herd" the stupid thing out.

6'6" tall.

[Dave R]

I put up a 2 wire electric fence around my garden. It worked ok last year. One time they had gotten in it and tangled up and tore part of it down. It must have been a good lesson because they didn't come back.

Now so far this winter is a different story. The ground looks like a rodeo ground. I put the fence back up, so we'll see what happens.

It doesnt take them but a while to do you in.
Dave

[green 4 acres]

I heard this and it seemed to work for me cheap enough too
put just enough (1/4 tea spoon) dawn dish liquid in a tank sprayer with a gal water and spray the leaves they eat the plant get a bad taste and try elsewhere . Works for rabbits and bugs as well.

[superduty5.9]

Originally Posted by Iluvtruks0

I over heard an old man talking with his buddy just the other week about keeping out those pesky deer. He said he FINALLY figured it out. He said to just place a container of your own urine at the end and sides of the garden. Every other day changing it out with some fresh P, and he hasnt had a single varmint anywhere near his garden. I cannot confirm that this works, but he said it was the best thing he has ever used.

I've heard this too except just pour on the ground. It keeps the animals out and acts as a fertilizer. I haven't tried it but I know old timers who swear by it!

[Poor 104 Owner]

Human urine is an excellent fertilizer when diluted to about 8:1 has high amounts of most nutrients needed for garden plants

Took this from wiki

Urine contains large quantities of nitrogen (mostly as urea), as well as significant quantities of dissolved phosphates and potassium, the main macronutrients required by plants, with urine having plant macronutrient percentages (i.e. NPK) of approximately 11-1-2 by one study[18] or 15-1-2 by another report,[19] illustrating that exact composition varies with diet. Undiluted, it can chemically burn the roots of some plants, but it can be used safely as a source of complementary nitrogen in carbon-rich compost.[20]

When diluted with water (at a 1:5 ratio for container-grown annual crops with fresh growing medium each season,[21] or a 1:8 ratio for more general use[20]), it can be applied directly to soil as a fertilizer. The fertilization effect of urine has been found to be comparable to that of commercial fertilizers with an equivalent NPK rating.[22] Urine contains most (94% according to Wolgast[18]) of the NPK nutrients excreted by the human body. Conversely, concentrations of heavy metals such as lead, mercury, and cadmium, commonly found in solid human waste, are much lower in urine (though not low enough to qualify for use in organic agriculture under current EU rules).[23] The more general limitations to using urine as fertilizer then depend mainly on the potential for buildup of excess nitrogen (due to the high ratio of that macronutrient),[21] and inorganic salts such as sodium chloride, which are also part of the wastes excreted by the renal system. The degree to which these factors impact the effectiveness depends on the term of use, salinity tolerance of the plant, soil composition, addition of other fertilizing compounds, and quantity of rainfall or other irrigation.

Urine typically contains 70% of the nitrogen and more than half the phosphorus and potassium found in urban waste water flows, while making up less than 1% of the overall volume. Thus far, source separation, or urine diversion and on-site treatment has been implemented in South Africa, China, and Sweden among other countries with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation provided some of the funding implemenations.[24] China reportedly had 685,000 operating source separation toilets spread out among 17 provinces in 2003.[25]

"Urine management" is a relatively new way to view closing the cycle of agricultural nutrient flows and reducing sewage treatment costs and ecological consequences such as eutrophication resulting from the influx of nutrient rich effluent into aquatic or marine ecosystems.[19] Proponents of urine as a natural source of agricultural fertilizer claim the risks to be negligible or acceptable. Their views seem to be backed by research showing there are more environmental problems when it is treated and disposed of compared with when it is used as a resource.[26]

It is unclear whether source separation, urine diversion, and on-site urine treatment can be made cost effective; nor whether required behavioral changes would be regarded as socially acceptable, as the largely successful trials performed in Sweden may not readily generalize to other industrialized societies.[22] In developing countries the use of whole raw sewage (night soil) has been common throughout history, yet the application of pure urine to crops is rare. Increasingly there are calls for urine's use as a fertilizer, such as a Scientific American article "Human urine is an effective fertilizer".[27]