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View Poll Results: Do you keep your cub cadets or just try to ROLL them for cash profit?
I keep them 63 95.45%
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Old 11-29-2010, 02:53 PM
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This seems to be the topic of late on several forums ,not sure if its the same topic starter or not.
We part quite a few here and I always say if you want good parts you have to part good tractors.In the 10 years I have parted tractors and 10 years prior to that 67-69 Camaros I have never had a request for a worn out part in fact most people especialy on ebay expect new for pennies on the dollar.

We usually get 7-8 calls a week for good running engines (I don`t want to do anything to it but drop it in and go) a week .Mostly of late magnum 18s.New ones are over $2000. if you can find them.The only way I know to get a good running engine is to part a good running tractor,there isn`t a lot of profit in rebuilding nor is there much market for rebuilt engines and its quite costly which is why so many want a used one. We also sell lots of hydros,engines,rock shafts and other parts to dealers that have customer machines in the shop and new parts are NLA so used is the only choice or scrap the machine which happens a lot more than you think.

We also have many customers that the dealer informs them the part is NLA and the customers locate the parts used and sends to the dealer to install and save the tractor. We look at it as wee can save quite a few by parting 1? how many of the ones we part would end up in the scrap pile?

As far as making profit what is wrong with that? that is what pays the bills.Do you think for one minute that your employer doesn`t make a profit on your labor,every business I know of needs profit to keep the doors open ,your local dealer included.Guys buy these tractors (me included) and put many hours ,fuel and ware on vehicles,time to clean,take apart,store,pack& ship,answer emails,Yes we make a profit.

I think the biggest harm done to this hobby is guys drag one home and post pics and what they paid for it then a week later its for sale in pieces or together for 3 times what they paid.some things are best left un said

When I got started in this I was able to buy a machine ,clean,paint,rebuild etc and sell complete and make a profit,times have changed and I can`t get $500. out of a good running 149 anymore but I can sell the 14 hp engine for $400. all day long,or the deck for $200.I have had to adapt to the changing times or move on. Fact is many people just need a part and do not have a trailer,time to pick up or place to store another machine so they are happy to just buy what they need and not a complete machine.

We buy and sell quite a bit from craigslist,ebay,and the forums .I always love when I buy a machine and the owner tells me how many people emailed them and tell them its worth double or they are asking twice what its worth but have no interest in buying it,they always say if its worth twice then why couldn`t I sell it for all I was asking?

I think if everyone thinks of the tractors they have owned and fixed up and all of the parts they have bought used to keep there machine going that that would not have been posable without good parts it doesn`t seem so bad parting.
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:18 PM
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I think the biggest harm done to this hobby is guys drag one home and post pics and what they paid for it then a week later its for sale in pieces or together for 3 times what they paid.
I agree 100%. It really grinds my gears when people post something like 'Hey! I practically stole this tractor!' and then there it is in the classifieds for 4x what they paid for it. If you buy a tractor to resell immediately, DON'T brag to everybody how little you paid for it...everybody knows what's going on...
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Old 11-30-2010, 06:43 PM
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This seems to be the topic of late on several forums ,not sure if its the same topic starter or not.
We part quite a few here and I always say if you want good parts you have to part good tractors.In the 10 years I have parted tractors and 10 years prior to that 67-69 Camaros I have never had a request for a worn out part in fact most people especialy on ebay expect new for pennies on the dollar.

We usually get 7-8 calls a week for good running engines (I don`t want to do anything to it but drop it in and go) a week .Mostly of late magnum 18s.New ones are over $2000. if you can find them.The only way I know to get a good running engine is to part a good running tractor,there isn`t a lot of profit in rebuilding nor is there much market for rebuilt engines and its quite costly which is why so many want a used one. We also sell lots of hydros,engines,rock shafts and other parts to dealers that have customer machines in the shop and new parts are NLA so used is the only choice or scrap the machine which happens a lot more than you think.

We also have many customers that the dealer informs them the part is NLA and the customers locate the parts used and sends to the dealer to install and save the tractor. We look at it as wee can save quite a few by parting 1? how many of the ones we part would end up in the scrap pile?

As far as making profit what is wrong with that? that is what pays the bills.Do you think for one minute that your employer doesn`t make a profit on your labor,every business I know of needs profit to keep the doors open ,your local dealer included.Guys buy these tractors (me included) and put many hours ,fuel and ware on vehicles,time to clean,take apart,store,pack& ship,answer emails,Yes we make a profit.

I think the biggest harm done to this hobby is guys drag one home and post pics and what they paid for it then a week later its for sale in pieces or together for 3 times what they paid.some things are best left un said

When I got started in this I was able to buy a machine ,clean,paint,rebuild etc and sell complete and make a profit,times have changed and I can`t get $500. out of a good running 149 anymore but I can sell the 14 hp engine for $400. all day long,or the deck for $200.I have had to adapt to the changing times or move on. Fact is many people just need a part and do not have a trailer,time to pick up or place to store another machine so they are happy to just buy what they need and not a complete machine.

We buy and sell quite a bit from craigslist,ebay,and the forums .I always love when I buy a machine and the owner tells me how many people emailed them and tell them its worth double or they are asking twice what its worth but have no interest in buying it,they always say if its worth twice then why couldn`t I sell it for all I was asking?

I think if everyone thinks of the tractors they have owned and fixed up and all of the parts they have bought used to keep there machine going that that would not have been posable without good parts it doesn`t seem so bad parting.
Good post Rich. I know I've got several items from you and you're exactly right.... if you can part 1 machine to save possibly dozens.... You've always been more than fair and deliver sight unseen better than expected parts. Next time I'll be sure to request a worn out part! :biggrin2.gif:
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:35 PM
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Thanks Gary ,Your a valued customer
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:07 PM
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RICH, please don't raise your prices yet. I still need 2-3 more trips worth of parts. For now.
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:10 PM
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As for flipping cubs, I bought my first one on fathers day and got another for parts, but can't part it cause it's too nice:biggrin2.gif:. If someone can make a dollar, I say go for it. I would love to see them all saved, but without some paying the ultimate price, many others would die.
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:06 PM
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That topic can (and usually will) spark some strong opinions from both sides...and everything in between.

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Old 12-01-2010, 09:12 PM
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This is an issue for all old stuff hobbyists. My other project is a '70 F350. On that forum we talk about the same thing. I personally have scrapped two old Fords. They were both very worn out old trucks, but parts from them have kept mine and a couple others going too. I still have tons of parts from the trucks I scrapped that I am still looking to get rid of. The bone yard is essential to keeping old stuff going, and the people that run them for a living deserve to make some money. I've sold some of the parts I kept from those trucks as scrap because I had no place to keep them. The guy who finds and parts out stuff has to take them apart, catalog the parts, advertise them, pack them and ship them. How can anybody not expect that guy to try and make a few bucks? Buying and selling parts or whole machines is what keeps the hobbies going. There are a lot of good people out there providing a service to our hobbies. There are probably a few dirtbags out there too. I think that eventually the market will sort them out.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:40 AM
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well said, flatbed ford
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:24 PM
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I just found something somewhat funny browsing on epay... A few weeks ago there was a "one of a kind, never for sale, sold, made, best thing ever...." cub listed. The seller was true, I had saw this tractor on a few sites and it was one of a kind home brew. However his one of a kind started out at $12,000. I just gave it a quick "ya right" and browsed on. Well, I see today the same thing, same owner, and it's re-listed starting at $3,500. BIG difference trying to get $12K vs. $3.5K from someone. And I'm supposed to believe the bottom fell out in a couple of weeks?
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