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Old 12-27-2013, 10:15 AM
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I feel for ya. A lot going on there. Sounds like the belt was a result of the strain of the other failures. Hate to say it, but I think it needs to come apart.

For next year I will be changing out my chain drive gearing I think. This one will blow snow once I am done!
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:50 AM
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I am a bit confused (which doesn't take much at times) what are you calling the "rotor"? is it all turning up to the small sprocket your saying?
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Old 12-27-2013, 01:13 PM
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I am a bit confused (which doesn't take much at times) what are you calling the "rotor"? is it all turning up to the small sprocket your saying?
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Part number 3 ( Rotor assembly)
Part number 7 is the number one suspect of the problem, if I'm lucky I just need to replace the 1/4 X 1-1/4 Hv Coiled Spring pin (19-689-R1) but I got enough for the moment, I stay as far I can from it ...

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Old 12-27-2013, 01:40 PM
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That dogbone I think they call it (5) is what I fear is damaged. It is the part I concern most with overspeeding the unit. Those are bushings not bearings(11) so lot of wear with heat and poor lube system.

So does the auger(rotor) move at all? Something should be able to wiggle within chain slack. Sorry for the questions, just trying to understand all the failure points. Something locked up for sure, but have sheered a pin?? Once you figure out and fix what locked the rest might not be so bad.
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Old 12-27-2013, 09:44 PM
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My qa42's have needle bearings with grease zerks for (11), not bushings. Overspending the machine has not hurt anything yet but I grease frequently and let a little slack in the chain to put less stress on everything.
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:26 PM
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Good to know. I made a bad assumption from the drawing. Thankfully my two are in good shape so not apart yet. Let the whir commence. Lol
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Old 12-28-2013, 07:05 PM
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That dogbone I think they call it (5) is what I fear is damaged. It is the part I concern most with overspeeding the unit. Those are bushings not bearings(11) so lot of wear with heat and poor lube system.

So does the auger(rotor) move at all? Something should be able to wiggle within chain slack. Sorry for the questions, just trying to understand all the failure points. Something locked up for sure, but have sheered a pin?? Once you figure out and fix what locked the rest might not be so bad.
The rotor hand move with chain and both sprockets together, but no power is transfer from the drive shaft or (number 6) small shaft, I think the small sprocket slip on the small shaft.

I take 2 weeks off work so I fix the problem ASAP and try again :-)
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Old 12-28-2013, 07:37 PM
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Thanks to Macman81's info I took mine apart today to give it a good cleaning. There is a shear pin in the sprocket and shaft. That part should be an easy fix for ya. Ensuring there is not something else may take a bit more checking.
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:49 PM
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Did a little measuring and math today on our snowthrowers to try and put values to our varied results. Assuming a 4 5/8 pto pulley and 4.5 thrower pulley.

QA42A (H42) - belt=1:1.02, Gearbox=2:1, Chain drive=1.7:1 Total reduction is .2997
So stock 1072 RPM rotor for a 38.5 mph release (leaving the rotor impeller) speed. Now there are losses for the chute and impeller efficiency. The bend of the chute could be as much as half. And the rotor could only be 80%. Assuming both and not digging up better math. 30mph release for 15mph at the end of the chute.
Mine throws 4-6ft with heavy snow. Barely gets over the side of the blower. Only used once but not expecting much better with light snow.
PTO (worn so belt sit lower) 4 inch & 4 inch thrower pulley.
Total reduction is .2916. Rotor=1050RPM, Release 37.4MPH, 80%=29.9MPH, Chute=14.9MPH.

Now my old HiCast38 that throws anything. Heavy snow better than light. 20ft easy and could do 40. Pretty much the same blower housing as my H42.
Guessing on my PTO as I can't measure it. Between 5.375 and 5.875 inch from searches. So will give both.
5.375 - Rotor=1612RPM. Release=57.5mph, 80%=46mph, Chute=23MPH
5.875 - Rotor=1762RPM. Release=62.9mph, 80%=50.3mph, Chute=25MPH.
Video of the Haban
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exs0eg4l4Ds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45j1q6hCp90

Sorry for the long post
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:52 PM
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Took apart the dogbone today. Very easy to change out the drive sprocket so I will be doing that to get my speed up where I want it. Should also note my blower needs worked to clean it up.
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