Sherwin Williams Acrylic Enamel Cub 125 Colors - Page 6

tbone · #51 09-21-2016, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zippy1

Ted, if the Iron Guard is going to be a trip to get, why not check out an auto parts store that carries PPG brand paints and go with their Omni brand paint? It's comparable in price (at least here) and sprays as easy as the IH stuff. That's what I had to have mixed for the white on my Original, and it painted fine.

I checked with a paint store in Corpus Christi, Texas that sells automotive and industrial paints, primarily, PPG. Following is what they told me:

The PPG product that is an acrylic modified alkyd enamel paint and is similar to Case/IH Irongard is: "PPG ALK 200", which sells for $58.51 per gallon. This paint is available in the PPG 81518 Federal Yellow and 90592 White. I was told by this paint store that they carry "Shopline" PPG paint and not the "OMNI" line which is usually carried by auto parts stores. The "Shopline" paint was three times more costly than the "PPG ALK 200".

Another paint store that sells primarily industrial paint to the refinery, oil, and gas industry said based on their documentation Case/IH Irongard is a acrylic modified alkyd enamel. This type enamel is still used in industrial applications. I was told that Case/IH Irongard is made by Krylon which is now owned by Sherwin Williams.

I am only sharing information I have been told by people that sure seemed to know what they were talking about. However, since I know very little about the types of enamel paints I can be easily impressed by someones paint knowledge.

I would sure appreciate comments on using the PPG ALK 200 paint and the paint information I have shared with you.

tbone · #52 09-21-2016, 03:12 PM

Following is a couple of links to a industrial acrylic enamel suggested by the Sherwin Williams automotive paint store. It is about $94.00 a gallon. The SW 34748 Federal Yellow is available.

https://www.sherwin-automotive.com/s...35G/SWA/PDS/en

http://coatings.specialchem.com/news...trial-coatings

zippy1 · #53 09-21-2016, 11:37 PM

Well Ted, you got me there. But that's nothing out of the ordinary. I'm looking at the Iron Gard paint can right now and there is nothing on it saying who it's made by...
So it's likely they weren't blowing smoke. But I "thought" it was made by Valspar, don't know why I think that. I am pretty sure the hardener was made by Valspar, but that can is gone and replaced by something else when I picked up the Omni.
Sorry, no help here.

olds45512 · #54 09-21-2016, 11:46 PM

the irongard is made by valspar, we just got a valspar mixing system installed last week and the tech that was setting it up confirmed that it was one of there industrial coatings in a case/IH can.

zippy1 · #55 09-21-2016, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512

the irongard is made by valspar, we just got a valspar mixing system installed last week and the tech that was setting it up confirmed that it was one of there industrial coatings in a case/IH can.

Well my memory wasn't as bad as I thought it was.

tbone · #56 09-22-2016, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512

the irongard is made by valspar, we just got a valspar mixing system installed last week and the tech that was setting it up confirmed that it was one of there industrial coatings in a case/IH can.

I called Valspar to locate a source for their Tractor and Implement paint. What I found out was you can no longer buy the Cub Cadet Yellow in qt. or gal. containers. You can get it only in rattle spray cans. So I'll forget Valspar paint.

It looks like my best source for Case/IH Irongard is Messick's. It is priced at $61.95 a gallon plus a $20.12 shipping fee. The good news is there is no Texas sales tax.

I am still interested in the Advanced Industrial Coatings (AIC) two-component acrylic enamel sold by Sherwin Williams. It is priced at $93.90/gal. which isn't that must more than the Irongard price. However, it calls for Epoxy Primer which I know nothing about and i will have to see what mixing and spraying challenges, if any, it will present.

I appreciate you guys hanging in with me on my paint decision. I know you are getting burned out on this discussion.

Oak · #57 09-22-2016, 08:54 PM

Tbone, spraying primer is as easy as it gets. It's pretty hard to get that stuff to run because it is so much thicker than paint. I sprayed this deck with PPG epoxy primer in black (JP377) and used their JH3770 hardener. You mix this stuff 2:1. One quart of paint & pint of hardener ran me $48.07. I like it.

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ironman · #58 09-22-2016, 09:12 PM

I would add 2 cents by saying, because of the cost's of whatever primer/paint you choose, it would behoove you to have all your parts that are going to use that particular paint ready ahead of time. In addition, have you're spraying areas all set up, meaning any structures such as parts hangers, wire hooks for small/large parts, horses for big parts, exhaust fans, etc. If you have to stop in the middle of spraying to do something you didn't plan for, you will only create yourself more greife and expense. Planning it out is secondary only to surface prep!

tbone · #59 09-22-2016, 09:31 PM

Oak & Ironman,
Thanks for your info and advise. Very much appreciated. I have the Cub 125 completely torn down so I have a lot of planning to do when painting all the parts. I am going to paint my utility trailer to get some practice with a spray gun and to learn how much I can paint with the 20 oz. capacity of the spray gun.

tbone · #60 09-22-2016, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Oak

Tbone, spraying primer is as easy as it gets. It's pretty hard to get that stuff to run because it is so much thicker than paint. I sprayed this deck with PPG epoxy primer in black (JP377) and used their JH3770 hardener. You mix this stuff 2:1. One quart of paint & pint of hardener ran me $48.07. I like it.

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The deck looks so nice you probably don't need a top coat. How many coats of primer did you spray on the deck?