Best Car In 2017?

[ambrola]

Originally Posted by litlmikeyl

We have one of those "bad" diesels and besides beings just a little on the small side, it's been a great car. We've put 36k on it on 20 months of owning it. We're waiting to see what the "fix" is from VW before we decide to do/not do the buyback deal. I'm leaning towards keeping it for now.

We did look at the Chevy Cruze with the oil burner but the price difference between it and the VW was a shock, so we got the VW.

The "fix" is to be submitted to the EPA & CARB on Nov. 11th and they have 45 days to approve it. If they do approve, all of the brand new V-dubs will not only get the fix, but a nearly ridiculous warranty and a big price drop over MSRP. My dealer is thinking in the 8-10k range for a price break.

Even with all that's happened with the Dieselgate mess, I'd buy another VW.

We also gave a '13 Ford Flex SEL AWD non-turbo that I daily drive and couldn't be happier with. Lots of room, stout, pull 5k lbs. Gets low 20's for mileage but it only goes 10 miles round trip a day for me to work & back.

The Flex has been a nice enough car overall that I'll probably never go back to GM as the fit & finish of the Ford is, IMO, as good as GM.

Will VW be coming out with a new line of Diesels in 2017?

[ambrola]

Originally Posted by drcjv

Ronnie the 67 looks great. You need to drive it. We are only here for a short time.

Yea, I know. I take it to a few shows a couple times a year. I also take it out every once in awhile to just drive through the country. The little 327 has only 60k miles on it and it feels like it has 600 HP. I guess it's just the simple engines back in the day when you could fix them yourself.

[Oak]

Sweet ride Ronnie!

Charles, I'm just like you. If it doesn't look nice I don't want it. We don't drive enough for the fuel mileage to make a difference. I'm starting to like the Panamera's but I'm thinking the service would empty the wallet.

Old Skull, if a manufacturer would ever tell me that I would call bs and never buy one of their products again ever.

[drcjv]

Oak, the Panamera turbo s executive is bad ass. If you can handle the $200,000 for the car, Maintenance cost should not be an issue. I ran a 4s a few years ago with the 99 and whooped him pretty good. I was at the King of Prussia mall the other day. (I despise the mall but had to go with the my daughter) which is now the largest mall in the country. The parking lot is full of Panameras, Ferraris and lambos ect....

[Oak]

That's what my friend has and it is sweet. I think he said he gave $195k for it so it should be. He has less than 25,000 miles on it and said he would sell it to me for $85k which is a good deal but that is waaaayyyy out of my price range. He said it is a very well built car. We put an a/c system in his toy box last year for his 3 Bentleys, Ferrari and Panamera. I get wood when I'm in his garage.

[sir_lancealot]

Originally Posted by ambrola

So what would you think it would cost in electricity? Has to be cheaper than gas. I wish VW still made the Jetta TDI, I would buy another one today. I frigging hate to buy gas, as you guys can tell. The Jetta Diesel I bought in 2006 has been by far the best car I have ever bought. And it gets close to 50 mpg. My truck gets 20. I fill it up at least once a week. It's not bad now, but when gas hit 5 bucks a gallon, it sucked.

According to Tesla's estimator, it will be $4.62 to charge after 115 miles. That's based on .12 per kilowatt hour. I'm pretty sure VW will re-release their TDI after everything settles down. They are probably just redesigning everything.

I read an article that the Chevy Equinox will be coming out with the same diesel engine the Cruze will have, if you're interested in something with more room in it. It'll be a 1.6L diesel...I misspoke earlier when I said 1.8L.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/09/22/2...diesel-engine/

[olds45512]

Originally Posted by ambrola

Yea, I know. I take it to a few shows a couple times a year. I also take it out every once in awhile to just drive through the country. The little 327 has only 60k miles on it and it feels like it has 600 HP. I guess it's just the simple engines back in the day when you could fix them yourself.

We need a video of a big smokey burnout or it's a 6 cylinder.

[sir_lancealot]

Originally Posted by Berwil

According to this article, a 240volt-30amp power cord will charge 30 miles in an hr, so it's closer to 4 hours for a 115 mile charge. 240 x 30 = 7200 watts or 7.2 kW. If electric cost $0.10/kW, 7.2x.1= $.72 an hr to charge your car. It would cost $2.88 to go 115 mile everyday. Generally, circuits are only loaded to %60 ampacity for continuous loads, so realistically it's probably closer to $1.73 for 115 miles.

This of course is after you buy the more expensive electric car, the $600+ power cord (charger) and pay someone (like me) to wire it up in your garage.

http://www.plugincars.com/quick-guid...er-126875.html

Bill

The Tesla estimator is based off a 240V, 48A charger. I believe that is the standard one that comes with the car, but I can't find that for sure anywhere.

[drcjv]

Oak I have a good friend, nice guy and self made. He just bought his wife a Bentley Continental for her 60th birthday. I got to drive it. It is a incredible car. I love the guys that have more money than sense and buy the High end sports cars and can't drive them. I love embarrassing them with my lowly ford.

[drcjv]

Originally Posted by Sam Mac

Charles

Take your Pony car to Watkins Glen and let me know when you can do a 2:02 on the long course.

Sam you are correct my car is set up to go from point A to B quickly and it does it very very well. If I was into the roundy rounds and wiggly wiggles I would have gotten a GT 350 which is also a pony car and was # 2 in the latest Motor Trend best drivers car beating many cars 2 and 3 times as expensive and only beaten by the McLaren by a hair. Quite an accomplishment for a lowly ford. Or for not crazy money I could upgrade my suspension and hang very nicely, still being less than half the cost of the exotics. I am not downing road racing just not for me. And my point was not against any car but the idiots with lots of money and no sense. I happen to live near an area with loads of them. Just because a car is expensive does not mean its fast and just because you have a lot of money does not mean you can drive. As for my Pony car it does exactly what I ask it to, when ask.