48" J Deck spindle shaft

Sutty · #1 08-27-2015, 10:08 PM

Hi Guys

New member here, and not very knowledgeable other than what I've found out over the last day or so whilst trying to find a source for my damaged part.

I'm sorry to make my first post, and perhaps my only thread, to be a cry for help, but that's the reason I joined, to try and benefit form your collective wisdom.

Here's my problem, if I can indulge you. I'd kept thinking my deck sounded noisy, but decided to persist until the end of the mowing season. In the end, after mowing this week, I decided I needed to check it out, as it was starting to sound really bad, so I removed the deck, to inspect it. I found that the bearings on the long double pulley spindle shaft were ceased, the shaft was worn, and it was very wobbly, since presumably it had been spinning inside the bearing inner race, and had worn two substantial gooves on the shaft.

I have been searching now for two days on Google, and have yet to even be able to identify my part. The whole double pulley spindle assembly is easy enough to find, well not easy, but I found it, but it's not available. I wouldn't really want to buy the whole thing anyway, since the spindle housing is fine, I can easily source the bearings at a good price, so all I need is the shaft, and since it's all stripped down now, it will, or would be a really easy job to replace it, if only it were available.

Can any one here point me in the right direction for the appropriate part. I've already seached the recommended parts resources, and either my search skills are sadly lacking, or this part simply doesn't exist any more. I don't mind if I have to import it, since I need it badly, but I can't even find it, even if I try to find the whole assembly, which again, I don't really want to buy anyway, but will if I have to.

I don't have the serial number of my machine at the moment. I know in the introduction threads it says this is important, but it's too late here now to go rummaging in my shed with a torch. If it turns out to be essential I will post that tomorrow.

So what I do know, it is a CC1023RD, and is perhaps a UK model, since that is where I'm based, and I can't seem to find it with US resources. The deck is a J deck, 48", and if you look at this link, the whole double pulley assembly is listed as part number 3, and is unavailable. Other sites list it as end of life, or similar.

The bearings seem to be standard, and easy to get, from what I've seen from my searches, but the shaft is longer than any I can find. The bearings by the way are marked 6204RSC3, for what that's worth.

Here's a picture of the shaft. It is 19.90mm in diameter, measured at what I believe to be a good spot still, from inside where the pulleys would have been, and it is 9" long.

2015-08-28 00.40.27.jpg

As you can see there are substantial grooves. One behind the blade flange for the lower bearing, and a worse one, just below where the pulleys would have been, for the upper bearing.

Do you think you guys could try and help me out please. If you can't find that shaft either, are there any options to have it repaired, or is that virtually impossible?

I'm sorry it's late here now, so I won't see any replies until the morning, so please be patient with me if you need to ask me for further information.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards

Sutty

ol'George · #2 08-27-2015, 10:44 PM

First, welcome to OCC!
ok,
it is a std. bearing of about 20.MM I.D.
The worm part of the shaft could be welded up and re machined to size but it will probably warp.(out of round)
If the shaft is not available, a local machinist can make one for you possibly.
Hopefully others here will help with other suggestions, or find something that will work for you.

R Bedell · #3 08-28-2015, 06:47 AM

Quote:

So what I do know, it is a CC1023RD, and is perhaps a UK model,

This that the model of the Tractor...???

Sam Mac · #4 08-28-2015, 09:29 AM

Looks like it's a UK model.

I did a Google search for Cub Cadet cc 1023 rd

https://www.google.com/#q=cub+cadet+cc+1023+rd

http://www.powertoolspares.com/index...009060/spares/

You'll probably need to contact Cub to see if they sell just the shaft. I see that you can buy the complete spindle assembly.

Edit: Using the powertools site I took the part number for the spindle then searched Google, looks like it's just a late style MTD spindle.
https://www.google.com/#q=cub+cadet+918-04160
You could try the sponsors at the top og the page for a good used one.

ol'George · #5 08-28-2015, 11:02 AM

Well it looks like it is avail in Poland
http://www.kramp.com/shop-pl/pl/4355...ka+MTD+komplet
That is a long spindle shaft!!
I would suggest to contact cub cadet/MTD.
Best I can do for you, nothing shows up on ebay or ebay UK

ol'George · #6 08-28-2015, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Mac

Looks like it's a UK model.

I did a Google search for Cub Cadet cc 1023 rd

https://www.google.com/#q=cub+cadet+cc+1023+rd

http://www.powertoolspares.com/index...009060/spares/

You'll probably need to contact Cub to see if they sell just the shaft. I see that you can buy the complete spindle assembly.

Edit: Using the powertools site I took the part number for the spindle then searched Google, looks like it's just a late style MTD spindle.
https://www.google.com/#q=cub+cadet+918-04160
You could try the sponsors at the top og the page for a good used one.

Sam,
I think he needs #3, the long shaft that is no longer available but I could be mistaken.

Sam Mac · #7 08-28-2015, 11:58 AM

George

I think your correct. I didn't relize that they had a longer shaft on one of the spindles.

Sutty · #8 08-28-2015, 01:18 PM

Sorry about the delay, it's been a crazy day.Thanks for the nice welcome and for the helpful suggestions so far.

Yes, it is a very long shaft comapared to what I have seen whilst looking arround.

It is the one shown as #3 assembly, and I believe has part number:

618-04162A

It is a UK ride on lawn mower. The deck is a 48" J deck, and yes, CC 1023 RD is the model, which I soon discovered seems not to exist elsewhere, or ceretainly not in the US.

The serial number, from under the seat, is I believe, 13AB51CJ603 , or maybe that is a more complete and accurate part number. That number is followed by AD267L10398 and it is a 2007 model.

I can post a picture of that label if it helps.

I'm not an engineer, so I know nothing of what can be done in terms of repair, but I have the new bearings now at least, so when I get my shaft I can soon have it back up and running.

I'm not even sure what type of machine shop I would try to contact, or what to search for in Google, if I end up going the route of trying to have it repaired, or even have one made. I've never used such services before, and don't know what I'm looking for.

As it stands for the OEM part I've had no luck, but on trying to contact MTD I was bounced from pillar to post until I ended up with a local supplier, who said they would track it down for me, and sounded quite confident. I told him all those I'd found so far said discontinued, but he didn't seem to think that would stop him. We'll see.

In the meantime, if anyone else has some other good ideas, I'm all ears, and thanks once again for your help and warm welcome.

Cheers

Sutty

Sam Mac · #9 08-28-2015, 01:44 PM

Find a machine shop and see if they can build up the worn area by welding in and they turn it to the proper size in a lathe.

Sutty · #10 08-28-2015, 03:11 PM

Yes, thank you, ol'George also suggested the same thing, and I will certainly look into that. Not sure even how to search for a machine shop that can do these sorts of thing. I'm off work next week, so I'll have plenty of time to look for such a thing, if the dealer doesn't come back to me with anything by Tuesday.