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Old 07-23-2020, 08:29 PM
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I'm working on my 1641 in this range of serial # below.

{1641 (145-653-100) - Cub Cadet Garden Tractor (SN: 821060 - 880000) }

When I started It this evening it was really smoking.

Where is the best place to buy parts/ Rebuild kit ?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Model #303447 Type 0447-01 Code 940916

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Old 07-23-2020, 08:55 PM
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I would suggest you take an aspirin and maybe a short nap.

I have owned several 16 hp Vanguards that smoked and none of them required a rebuild. Might be best for you to figure out what is causing the smoke and report back before all the jingle runs out of your pockets?
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Old 07-23-2020, 09:18 PM
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Thanks.
I will take that advice.
When I purchased it a few weeks ago it was fine.

It is (freshly rebuilt) was the story.

It sounds great.
I will pull the plugs and take a look.
Also Run a compression check.
I will take the muffler off. and check things out .
I will post a picture of the muffler.
It does not look like it is burning good on both cylinders.

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Old 07-23-2020, 10:04 PM
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I run compression test.
150psi even both sides.

Right Plug looks normal,
Left Plug Wet. Gas/Oil.

So spark check.
Right side

Left side

I will look when it gets dark.

I think it has not had spark on this side for a while.

Here is a picture of the Muffler.

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Old 07-23-2020, 10:45 PM
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Update.
No spark on left side.







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Update.
The coils check the same Ohm resistance .
The flywheel is rusty.
I will clean this.
I am going to check the gap.
Does anyone have that info?

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The kill wire that attaches to the coils has diodes in it. I've read that if they go bad it can cause spark failure. I had to replace the one on my 1641 because it got pinched in the shroud.
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The kill wire that attaches to the coils has diodes in it. I've read that if they go bad it can cause spark failure. I had to replace the one on my 1641 because it got pinched in the shroud.
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Old 07-25-2020, 08:28 AM
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Thank You.

I will check that.

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The armature air gap is .008-.012.

If you can spin the engine, just remove the kill wire from both armatures and see of both of them spark.

I just replaced a kill wire because of an open diode and one side wouldn't fire.

Some multimeters can check diode function.
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Old 07-25-2020, 08:42 PM
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I want to Thank both of You.
Mike McKown for slowing me down .
And Cannon51 for telling me about the wire.
And Mike for instruction of leaving the wire off
It was that wire.
I swapped the coil side to side
Tested everything.
Blah Blah
Then left the wire off and (Bam)

Here's a picture

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So 2 more Questions.

#1: Where is the best place to buy this wire?

Also there was nothing hooked to it on the outside of the engine.

#2: Does it have to be hooked in the wiring?





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