1641 vs. 2182

[HemiMoparGuy1981]

Hey Guys,

Just wondering if there are any major differences between a 1641 and 2182 or similar. My reasoning is, I really like the 2182, 2284, 2084, etc along those lines. And I see a few 1641's for sale for cheap near me. Obviously the motor's are different, I get that, that the first numbers are the HP motor, and from analyzing pics, some of the bigger tractors seem to have power steering. I also notice tire sizes. I guess my question is, if I buy one of these 1641, is there any reason why I couldn't fairly easily (provided parts are easy to come by) be able to convert it to a 2284 or something by swapping motors and tires, and adding PS??

Thanks,
Eric

[Sam Mac]

Eric

Short answer is that it would be a major undertaking to even try to make a 1641 into a 2182, 2284, 2084, etc. The 2182, 2284, 2084, etc. are all Supers and the 1641 is a GT. Just a few of the important differences, frame, engine, drive shaft, gearing in the trans, front axle, power steering, wheels and tires etc. Many of the parts you would need are NLA and would need to be found from the guys that sell used parts. The 1641 is a great GT, I owned one a few years ago but if you need or want a Super you will be much better off buying one.

Sam

[Methos]

Originally Posted by Sam Mac

Eric

Short answer is that it would be a major undertaking to even try to make a 1641 into a 2182, 2284, 2084, etc. The 2182, 2284, 2084, etc. are all Supers and the 1641 is a GT. Just a few of the important differences, frame, engine, drive shaft, gearing in the trans, front axle, power steering, wheels and tires etc. Many of the parts you would need are NLA and would need to be found from the guys that sell used parts. The 1641 is a great GT, I owned one a few years ago but if you need or want a Super you will be much better off buying one.

Sam

What Sam said!

[HemiMoparGuy1981]

Originally Posted by Sam Mac

but if you need or want a Super...

Want vs Need are totally different...I sure do WANT a Super GT, though I don't need one at all, as I use four wheelers to do the grunt work, I just think the Supers look cool as <fill in the blank>.

So now I have to contemplate if I want to sell my Bolens to get a 1641 to get me by until I find a decent Super, or if I just want to keep my Bolens around while waiting for a good Super. My Bolens is a 1983 with a Briggs I/C. Any ideas as to "gas mileage" differences between the two? Would a bit newer engine like that not be as thirsty??

[HemiMoparGuy1981]

Just for the record...not that I have a huge thought in doing this, but what if I were to find an older super, like 882...at least I think 882 was a Super...but regardless, an older super in that era...I know anything is possible with enough time and money, etc, but is it reasonably feasible to swap body panels from a 1641 to create a Super that has the look I am wanting? This is mostly a thought out of sheer curiosity, not hopefulness, so don't jump to the conclusion that I am one of those crazy morons that shouldn't be within 50 ft of a wrench.

[Methos]

Originally Posted by HemiMoparGuy1981

Just for the record...not that I have a huge thought in doing this, but what if I were to find an older super, like 882...at least I think 882 was a Super...but regardless, an older super in that era...I know anything is possible with enough time and money, etc, but is it reasonably feasible to swap body panels from a 1641 to create a Super that has the look I am wanting? This is mostly a thought out of sheer curiosity, not hopefulness, so don't jump to the conclusion that I am one of those crazy morons that shouldn't be within 50 ft of a wrench.

A 882 is a GT with a diesel engine. They do sip the feul tho.

[HemiMoparGuy1981]

What about like a 2072, isn't that a super? Obviously a project, but would it be way harder than it is worth to try to swap the body panels from a 1641?? I guess by body panels I mean the hood and front fenders only, the back and everything else I would be content with leaving.

[ACecil]

The 2072 is a super.

[HemiMoparGuy1981]

Are there any other supers of that era, I know 982 is, and now 2072...what signifies a super vs just a GT...I mean to know by the model number.

[HemiMoparGuy1981]

Any more comments?? Is it a dumb idea to take an 80's super and early 90's "front clip" and make the tractor I want...due to mainly the availability of what I want, and also the probable cost of what I want IFF it were available.