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Old 08-04-2012, 10:31 AM
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how hard is it to changing gears from a super aluminum housing in to a cast housing out of a 782
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:58 PM
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PM Vince O or Matt G. I know Vince just did one for Allen C
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:22 PM
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If the aluminum housing can take what I put it through, why change to C.I.!!??





Just wondering, I might need to change mine!!

Never thought about it.

Will the 3 point hitch still fit the C.I.??
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:32 PM
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i am buying another 1872 to replace my 582 it not big enought for loader and this 1872 has broken housing i am getting it cheap with puting loader and backhoe on it i figured cast be the way to go.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:44 PM
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If the aluminum housing can take what I put it through, why change to C.I.!!??





Just wondering, I might need to change mine!!

Never thought about it.

Will the 3 point hitch still fit the C.I.??
Yes it will.

Most people do the conversion for the extra weight and to put on a sleeve hitch on a Alum rear but they use the fine splines for extra strength. On a super you need to use the same internals due to the hydro pump being diffrent then the non supers.
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:41 PM
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Well I'm on my 3rd CI change over. I'm no expert, as every time I do one I find another thing to do use change, etc.

First thing is you'll need a doner. I've used 147 and 107 rears so far. This one is a 1450,. You'll need to order a new welch plug for the doner trans. I would post pics, but I lost all mine recently. Order all new gaskets new seals. The seals can be had at car quest or NAPA. The hardest part is setting the pinion depth. I don't do like Matt did on his site cause I don't have the tools, and its a hydro and not a gear drive. Also with straight gears its not as critical as the curved.

You'll have to remove the brake lever from the CI and do away with it. Then simply just take it apart via the manual, and reassembly per the manual of the CI, using the tolerances from it.

As far as why people do the CI change over is cause most time when we get the tractors there's a bolt or something broken already. The aluminum one from Allen's, someone had been into. Not to mention the trunion shaft looked new. I've seen over the years just a hand full of rears on different sites where guys have gotten tight ones. I also have talked with people that say the cat o hitch also strengths the frame and rear. Also these frames weren't heat treated like the other 82 series tractors. With the extra length in the tunnel cover you can feel the frame flex. I replaced my regular screws in the tunnel cover with some metal self tappers from a metal roofing job, that someone had left a full bag on the scissor lift.

The one I'm doing now will be used for the loader. So the extra 60 lbs will be helpful. But it comes down to some common sense, you have to check them bolts. Also the CI use a single bolt in the mounting ears, so if it comes loose, it will move, the aluminum binds and breaks.

Bottom line look at the manual a few times, I just look at them for the pics, LOL and take a look at Matt's write up, it will help and keep my number call if you have problems, Ill do the best I can to help, Duke said it was OK if I help people here
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Where've I been? At work, LOL All this rain is keeping me real busy. I did about 1000 dollars of work to a 1200 the other day. Like he said its better than what he can buy today, I hated to agree, LOL I've worked on my QL's in the last month than I care to talk about. People are finally realizing that its better to dump money in the older ones than to buy a new big box store one.

My computer crashed so I lost all my pics of my builds, kids with cubs the latest CI change overs, this is why I cant post the pics. There's a friend here that's going to hook me up with their old one, till I can get another MAC. I'm using the kids lap top now, cant do much with them.

Now I'm trying to get this 2072 the one with the busted frame and rear up and running. Got the new steering hoses frames painted, rears painted so hopefully this weekend I'll have a ruling tractor.

I'll have one more super to do after this one and then Ill start selling off the rest of my stuff in the spring. The 2072 I got from Mike Shaw will be powered by a command, I have a 25 hp that I took out of a concrete saw, if its build-able, and will have a gear drive rear, hoping I can afford to put a fast over drive in it. It wont have power steering, but will have hydro lift. All the sheet metal from Danny's 482 will go on it, so I guess it will be a super 482?
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I have all the tin U need for that 2072, let me know!
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Where've I been? At work, LOL All this rain is keeping me real busy. I did about 1000 dollars of work to a 1200 the other day. Like he said its better than what he can buy today, I hated to agree, LOL I've worked on my QL's in the last month than I care to talk about. People are finally realizing that its better to dump money in the older ones than to buy a new big box store one.

My computer crashed so I lost all my pics of my builds, kids with cubs the latest CI change overs, this is why I cant post the pics. There's a friend here that's going to hook me up with their old one, till I can get another MAC. I'm using the kids lap top now, cant do much with them.

Now I'm trying to get this 2072 the one with the busted frame and rear up and running. Got the new steering hoses frames painted, rears painted so hopefully this weekend I'll have a ruling tractor.

I'll have one more super to do after this one and then Ill start selling off the rest of my stuff in the spring. The 2072 I got from Mike Shaw will be powered by a command, I have a 25 hp that I took out of a concrete saw, if its build-able, and will have a gear drive rear, hoping I can afford to put a fast over drive in it. It wont have power steering, but will have hydro lift. All the sheet metal from Danny's 482 will go on it, so I guess it will be a super 482?
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