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Old 07-28-2019, 02:23 AM
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Default Well I broke a head stud!

Hey fellas I had to remove the head on this 104 it had a stuck valve. Has been sitting a long time. Long story short stud broke! This is the first Cub I've ever worked on. I have a game plan for tomorrow. Just curious how other people would attack this problem.
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Old 07-28-2019, 07:34 AM
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The stud in that spot is a common one that breaks. Forget the wd40. You might at well pee on it lol. If any penetration oil is going to work, Get some PB blaster or kroil. It's a tough spot to heat. If you do need to heat, I would heat the bolt, then let it cool completely before trying to move it. Be patient with it! Good luck
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Old 07-28-2019, 07:55 AM
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I'd go with the PB also and vice grips, not small ones either.
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Old 07-28-2019, 08:59 AM
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All good advice.
PB works as good as any.
No WD ( water dispersant)
Whack it once a good 'en as if it were a nail and you were wanting to drive it in deeper, the shock usually helps.
Now we know it is tight because you broke the dam thing off so it is
goot"N" tite.
So get out the oxy/ace and heat the block around the bolt.
then clamp a good pair of vice grips deep in the mouth and carefully wiggle it
tight/loose, you don't want to break it off, you just want it to turn, ever so little,is good as it will move more as you work it.
Another whack with the hammer will help as you try to turn it.
Heating with a propane torch is like pissing on a forest fire, use oxy/act.
fast, hot and concentrated.
It may take several attempts.
main idea is don't break it off muscling it too much, take your time getting it to turn, just a smidgen works as it will get better as you work it.
BTDT it works.
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Old 07-28-2019, 09:23 AM
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Get some PB blaster or kroil. It's a tough spot to heat. If you do need to heat, I would heat the bolt, then let it cool completely before trying to move it. Be patient with it!
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Well I managed to get the head bolt out. Thought I would share what I did. Soaked over night with Kroil. Then I took some electronics duster and turned the can upside down and froze the bolt did this for several min. Stopping periodically. Spraying kroil. Put light pressure on it with a pipe wrench. Once it broke loose it screwed out by hand. Thanks again for your input. C.Gunby
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Was the bolt too long for the hole? Sounds like someone used a bolt that was too long.
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That was a cool idea, I have used that stuff, frostbite can be an issue using it for what it is not intended for like making a beer cold!
Frozen wieners any one?
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That was a cool idea, I have used that stuff, frostbite can be an issue using it for what it is not intended for like making a beer cold!
Frozen wieners any one?
Oh my, sounds painful
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Well I managed to get the head bolt out. Thought I would share what I did. Soaked over night with Kroil. Then I took some electronics duster and turned the can upside down and froze the bolt did this for several min. Stopping periodically. Spraying kroil. Put light pressure on it with a pipe wrench. Once it broke loose it screwed out by hand. Thanks again for your input. C.Gunby
I was going to suggest heating the bolt, propane torch works just fine, and applying candle wax to the bolt where it screws into the block.

I always pass over vice-grips in favor of a pipe wrench if I can get a bite on the bolt. I have a selection of pipe wrenches from 4" to 24".

About the only thing I use vice-grips for is a clamp when welding.
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