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Old 01-29-2011, 09:53 PM
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I have been working on making a 189 Sub Super from an 1860 and a 149. If you are interested in how it started, what I have done to this point and for pictures you can look at this thread, http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=6202

I haven't worked on it in months but just got back to it yesterday. I got all of the fenders and dash fit with spacers to fit the super front and rear tires. My next big obstacle was the front grille from the 149 mating up with the wider front frame of the 1860. I cut the front of the frame off of the 149 and cut out a section from the 1860 frame for it to fit into. I wanted to make it look as close to a factory job as I could so I used the rounded edges from the 1860 frame and angled them up and welded them to the 149 frame piece to make a "saddle" for the engine. I then filled in with steel and welded it all together.

Here are a series of pictures. The first one is what I started with (1860).
#2 and 3 are showing how wide the front of the frame is on the 1860 and how the grille from the 149 didn't match up.
#4 and 5 are pics of fitting the 149 front frame in.
the rest are of the finished product.
The last picture, well I thought I would take a permanent marker and make a temporary decal for inspiration for me. And yes that is a 1250 dash. I wanted to use the hydro lever on the right of the dash instead of the left.
I choose the name Sub Super but saw that Scott Murphy had used it also, sorry for stealing your name but it is just to good not to use. I tried Micro Super and some others but they just don't have the "to the point" sound of Sub Super. Do you have any ideas of a name with Super in it that would work, i.e. Micro Super. I'll listen to anything you can come up with.

Things left to do are install power steering, find a cat0 3pt hitch, try to work out a set of turning brakes, etc....... I might be done with it next year.

This probably isn't that great to most of you but I am having a blast and learning a ton about these machines in the process. My fabrication skills are probably a little archaic but hey, it's getting done none the less. There is still a ton of work to do but just thought I would share what I have done so far.
Thanks to all that have helped me out so far with answers to questions and parts.
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Old 01-29-2011, 09:56 PM
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I forgot one thing, I need to figure out how to exit the muffler exhaust. Not sure if I want to take it through the front grille or try to pipe it out the side somehow? Any ideas on that?
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Looking good Chip!
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This is going to be very interesting. Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.
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Nice job, Chip! Thanks for the update.
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That thing looks like a beast with the 149 grill and big front tire combination
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Looks awesome Chip! I think it would look sweet if you could figure out a way to rout the exhaust on the side somehow, resembling a diesel....awesome progress!

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The easy way to route the exhaust would probably be out the front using a QL grille screen. It doesn't look like there is much room to bring it out the side. About the only thing I could think of that might be close would be the muffler from a JD317, as they used a Kohler twin with a side-exit muffler.
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Looks awesome Chip! I think it would look sweet if you could figure out a way to rout the exhaust on the side somehow, resembling a diesel....awesome progress!

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Thanks, now that's a good idea. I'll try that out.
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The easy way to route the exhaust would probably be out the front using a QL grille screen. It doesn't look like there is much room to bring it out the side. About the only thing I could think of that might be close would be the muffler from a JD317, as they used a Kohler twin with a side-exit muffler.
Thanks Matt, I looked at a 317 muffler and the exit pipe is to far forward on the end cap.
I googled muffler and found this write up on a guy making a muffler. I think this is exactly what I will do and I can get the exhaust pipe exiting where I need it on the end cap. It will have to be towards the back side since the front part of the end cap is behind the front grille. I will open up the one that is on it now and see what condition it is in. If good I think it will work and be cheap enough.
Oh well, I still have plenty of time to work that out. I'm not even close to worrying about the engine. Wiring will be the largest hurdle for me. I do have a friend that is knowledgeable about circuitry so hopefully we can get it worked out.
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