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Old 06-03-2018, 09:00 AM
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froze up. are they worth trying overhaul or buy a new kolher command. is there a retrofit engine for these cadets or stay with a kohler
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Old 06-03-2018, 09:51 AM
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I think you can get pretty much any internal part in that engine. Couple questions. Do you have any exp rebuilding engines? Is the engine locked up from sitting or did it lock up from low oil condition? Either reason it locked up it may be beyond rebuilding but only way to determine that is to open it up and have a look. If I looked up the correct engine I saw complete engine for $999
Short block for around $500, and partial rebuild kits for 300$..
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I think you can get pretty much any internal part in that engine. Couple questions. Do you have any exp rebuilding engines? Is the engine locked up from sitting or did it lock up from low oil condition? Either reason it locked up it may be beyond rebuilding but only way to determine that is to open it up and have a look. If I looked up the correct engine I saw complete engine for $999
Short block for around $500, and partial rebuild kits for 300$..
Where did you find that info?
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Where did you find that info?
Tractor data showed a 18HP twin 624CC.
Heres the one for 999$

https://www.brandnewengines.com/CH62...hoC3XYQAvD_BwE

The other rebuild kits on different sites but these were guesstimates without know his exact model number
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Tractor data showed a 18HP twin 624CC.
Heres the one for 999$

https://www.brandnewengines.com/CH62...hoC3XYQAvD_BwE

The other rebuild kits on different sites but these were guesstimates without know his exact model number
Thanks...but that engine will not work. The crankshaft is for an UTV because it is tapered. Also other mods will be needed to make it work.

It is always nice to have additional sources for engines.
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Thanks...but that engine will not work. The crankshaft is for an UTV because it is tapered. Also other mods will be needed to make it work.

It is always nice to have additional sources for engines.
This engine may work....but it is pricey!

https://www.brandnewengines.com/CH680-3106.aspx
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Just curious...
https://www.powerequipmentdirect.com...RoC290QAvD_BwE

Is this the correct shaft? 400 bucks extra for non tapered?
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https://www.powerequipmentdirect.com...RoC290QAvD_BwE

Is this the correct shaft? 400 bucks extra for non tapered?
Yup...$400 additional for the correct shaft. However, this may not be a direct install due to the driveshaft mounting. The length of the shaft may be incorrect(not sure) and this engine will need to be adapted for the throttle and choke controls. Specific engines are expensive.
But as you mentioned in a previous post...take the stuck engine apart and evaluate what is needed to determine whether replacement is necessary.
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Yup...$400 additional for the correct shaft. However, this may not be a direct install due to the driveshaft mounting. The length of the shaft may be incorrect(not sure) and this engine will need to be adapted for the throttle and choke controls. Specific engines are expensive.
But as you mentioned in a previous post...take the stuck engine apart and evaluate what is needed to determine whether replacement is necessary.
Well, if it is the right one... at least Northern tool is a bit cheaper.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...RoCbLUQAvD_BwE

We buy CH740-3117's like they are going out of style lol.. Theres a company that builds walk behind belt loaders that have this engine. End users tend to blow em up quite frequently. Under powered for what its doing is my guess. Company has since started installing kubota diesels
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Well, if it is the right one... at least Northern tool is a bit cheaper.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...RoCbLUQAvD_BwE
That is set up to be a stationary motor. It can be converted, but not a drop in.

This is why I keep jumping on you cooperino. You talk and talk and post and post, but you just don't know the specifics enough to give accurate information. Either take the time to go to Cub Cadet (not tractor data) and look up the parts, then find an appropriate replacement that works, or just quit giving out info!!! Good thing Beth was paying attention.


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