2072 rear tires

[john hall]

My 2072 has a 60" Haban deck and turf tires on the rear. Land here is not really flat. I have quite a bit of trouble with spinning when turning up a hill or backing up a slight grade. Looking at the pics in another thread, I see most of you have cleat tires on your supers. How bad do they tear up the grass? Are they the same height as the original turf tires? I can't use anything shorter as there is hardly any ground clearance on the deck gauge wheels as it is.

[TheIHMan]

I have ag's on our 782D and the only time I tear up grass is when I have to make a sharp turn uphill.

[dfreed]

I loaded my turf tires with one gallon of windshield washer fluid each and the rest with water. That really helps with the spinning. I have never had a problem with them freezing either.

[weaverama]

I run ag's, weights and 7 gallons of RV anti freeze in each tire. They don't spin and therefore, they don't tear up the turf. The front wheels come up off the ground but they don't tear up the turf.

[john hall]

I've considered adding weights, how much do they weigh each and how hard are they to find? I don't think adding water/anti-freeze alone will solve my problem. My dad outweighs me by 50lbs and he still has trouble with spinning. I guess I could just get some plate cut out with a plasma or water-jet and make my own weights.

[Dave01]

You'd be surprised what a difference it can make. Yes, you may have a heavier operator on the tractor, but that weight is distributed over both rears, plus some on the fronts, so doesn't have all that much impact. If you fill the tires you can put 7 plus gallons in so the better part of 60 lbs. on each tire, the weight going directly to the ground under that tire. You can go with 70# wheel weights or filling the tires, or both though personally I think that is a lot of weight for just mowing.

[john hall]

Originally Posted by Dave01

You'd be surprised what a difference it can make. Yes, you may have a heavier operator on the tractor, but that weight is distributed over both rears, plus some on the fronts, so doesn't have all that much impact. If you fill the tires you can put 7 plus gallons in so the better part of 60 lbs. on each tire, the weight going directly to the ground under that tire. You can go with 70# wheel weights or filling the tires, or both though personally I think that is a lot of weight for just mowing.

We've never had serious trouble with traction until this mower. I think I'll try weighting the wheels before changing tires. The way I have the deck set-up is that it rolls on the ground with no weight on the tractor, that is probably making a big difference. You can lift the deck and normally it will stop spinning. But that is not practical to have to do so when turning uphill or just to backup. Are the weights for this machine interchangeable with other models?

[Dave01]

First on the weights - I believe the weights will fit any 12" wheel, I'm sure you have 26x12x12 tires on your super, a gt would have 23x10.5x12 but I assume the weights would fit either.


I'd suggest you run your deck suspended, just use the guage wheels as guides that keep it from scalping. Unless you have a really flat smooth lawn I can't see running a deck on these tractors in roll on the ground mode. Once you level it you'll get great results with it suspended, plus it takes 10 seconds to change the height by using the hand screw on the stop by your right foot.

[john hall]

Originally Posted by Dave01

First on the weights - I believe the weights will fit any 12" wheel, I'm sure you have 26x12x12 tires on your super, a gt would have 23x10.5x12 but I assume the weights would fit either.


I'd suggest you run your deck suspended, just use the guage wheels as guides that keep it from scalping. Unless you have a really flat smooth lawn I can't see running a deck on these tractors in roll on the ground mode. Once you level it you'll get great results with it suspended, plus it takes 10 seconds to change the height by using the hand screw on the stop by your right foot.

I know of a guy with a bunch of older Cadets, I'll see if he has a set of weights I can try.

I imagine the 60" deck weighs 2.5-3 times what a stamped deck does---too much for the tractor to have to carry in my opinion, thats why I have it set up to roll on all 4 wheels. I bored and sleeved the rear wheels with bronze bushings and installed front wheels with needle roller bearings. Haban really dropped the ball on the gauge wheels and the pivots for the front gauge wheels.

[Dave01]

I know those 60" decks are heavy, but the newer GT decks I'm running are very heavy as well, and they run fine on the hangers. Unless there is something I don't know about those decks I'd say run it suspended and don't worry about it.