Diesel block heater and glow plug timer

gt383mag · #1 02-14-2014, 10:43 PM

does anyone know of a block heater that fits the d600 in my 782d also i think the tractors newer than mine have a glow plug timer can one of those be made to work on my 782

J-Mech · #2 02-14-2014, 11:14 PM

Freeze plug style block heaters can be purchased by size. All you need to know is what size the freeze plug is you want to use. You can order them from most auto parts stores. Yes, I'm sure you could put a glow plug timer on your 782, but why? They are expensive and a PITA when they don't work right. Plus, you have to keep cycling the key....... I'd leave it alone. This (IMHO) is a classic case of simpler is better.

gt383mag · #3 02-15-2014, 12:15 PM

the freeze plugs look like they might only be 1/2 inch they are really small. didnt think they made them that small. ill see if i can get the calipers in there to measure on without taking it out. as for the GP timer i guess your rite K.I.S.S. is maybe better

Sam Mac · #4 02-15-2014, 01:33 PM

This style heater was on a 1772 that Oak now owns.

Oak · #5 02-15-2014, 03:57 PM

I have a few questions first. If your tractor still uses the original dash indicator that is problem #1. If you did not do the glow plug upgrade that is problem #2. If you did not replace the starter with a gear reduction type, even the cheap $89 China made POS ones that I use, that is problem #3. If you did all that and it still won't start, give it more throttle. Mine will start at about 1/3 but I hear some guys almost go wide open. What temperature will yours not start at? If I'm no help see if my man Vic can help ya out. http://www.orangetractortalks.com/20...starting-tips/

Good luck.

gt383mag · #6 02-15-2014, 05:31 PM

did the relay upgrade that did not seem to help at all. also put new plugs in it also no help have not done the starter upgrade yet but thats next. the reason i asked about the timer was that even if i hold the plugs on for 60 seconds and the engine turns over ok i hardly get puffs of smoke outta exhaust. seems even preheat for 60 seconds dont seem long enuff. if i put turbo heater under it for 20 or 30 minutes it will start with almost no preheat. have not tried to give it throttle while cranking ill try that today or tomorrow

J-Mech · #7 02-15-2014, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gt383mag

did the relay upgrade that did not seem to help at all. also put new plugs in it also no help have not done the starter upgrade yet but thats next. the reason i asked about the timer was that even if i hold the plugs on for 60 seconds and the engine turns over ok i hardly get puffs of smoke outta exhaust. seems even preheat for 60 seconds dont seem long enuff. if i put turbo heater under it for 20 or 30 minutes it will start with almost no preheat. have not tried to give it throttle while cranking ill try that today or tomorrow

Glow plugs have nothing to do with "puffs of smoke". They only help to fire what fuel it gets. If it isn't puffin', run the throttle up. Did you test to make sure the glow plugs are getting power while you cycle them?

According to the info I have found..... the block heater goes in the freeze plug on the head near the cooling fan bracket. It is Kubota part #70000-73595. $40.33

Oak · #8 02-15-2014, 06:47 PM

I think the starter will help you a lot. I have one without and even in Georgia it doesn't start near as quik as the one with the new gear ruduction starter.

Are these the plugs you used?
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Oh ya, here is the premium quality starter I used.

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gt383mag · #9 02-15-2014, 07:34 PM

yup those are the plugs i used

gt383mag · #10 02-16-2014, 08:07 PM

tried it today at half throttle and no luck... about 18 degrees charged battery and 4 hours later after holding glow plug on for 90 seconds or so and full throttle it started. saw the frost plug hole in head behind fan bracket looks like a tight fit but i think ill order a block heater and give it a try