Snow thrower rear mounted?

Coopere · #1 08-30-2014, 10:28 PM

Hello, I'm very new to this board.

I was wondering if anyone here has ever seen a rear mounted snow thrower on a wide frame IH Cub Cadet?

I have a new to me 108, as well as a 125 with a NF snow thrower.

From what I can tell the NF snow thrower won't mount on the front of the 108.

Unfortunately the two tractors are at two different locations.

I was hoping to utilize a tiller gear box on the back of the 108 to drive the snow thrower.

Before the question is asked, the 108 has a creeper drive and a special fabricated front hitch that needs to be used all the time hence why I can't mount a blower on the front of the 108, and space at that location is limited so we can't keep both tractors their at the same time.

Basically I need a manual cub with creeper and the ability to remove snow but leave our hitch on the front at all times... Any help would be greatly appreciated...

fourinchdragslicks · #2 08-30-2014, 11:51 PM

Not to ask a dumb question, but why not put the hitch on the back of the cub? The bearings are heavier and will take the loading better, the axle is heavier and you are less likely to break it. If you post a picture of what you have, you might get more relevent answers to your question.

Berwil · #3 08-31-2014, 12:27 AM

Welcome to OCC! I have not seen a rear snowthrower on a wide frame cub, If you figure it out let us know!

I have thought about this as well, I would like a blade on the front and thrower on the back. The problem with using the tiller gear box is rpm. The gearboxes are not 1:1, and with a single stage you need all the speed you can get out of it.

If your set on this idea, I think your best bet is to look for a blower like this MTD. It is run by a belt from under the tractor. Mount the whole frame under the tractor and run a belt up to the pto. If your going to cut something up, might as well be off brand, plus you can upgrade to a 2 stage blower.

What do you hookup to the front hitch? Is it hydraulic lift or standard manual? If standard, how will you separate front and rearifting operations? We like pictures here, would like to see what you use it for! Would it be easier to make an adapter to use the front hitch? If your clearing snow your not using whatever it is on the front anyway.

If you just need it to remove snow, how about a rear blade? Sleeve hitch and blade will bolt right on, no engineering needed.

Bill

Coopere · #4 08-31-2014, 01:10 PM

Thanks guys for the replies

Bill

I really like what you found about the mtd blower that looks like it could be made to work. A good family friend is in the middle of restoring a rear blade as we speak, I'm going to try that first prior to the blower. I know he said he saw one once at a show.

We use the 108 for moving aircraft at a local small aerodrome

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v9f6ra2zyh...23.06.jpg?dl=0

The hitch that has been fabbed up is just a pita to install and remove quickly despite it being based on a mule drive quick attach bracket. I'll get more pictures later today and post them up.

The reason for being on the front is simple, while pushing aircraft into hangers you need to be looking at the aircraft during the push their is only about 12 inches clearance on each wing and the tails often only have a few inches in hight clearance

Below is a pic of the same twin being pulled, that works in open areas just not around buildings, fuel pumps, other aircraft ect

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujqsii368v...50.37.jpg?dl=0

If the rear blade doesn't work out I'll have to figure out the blower, it's only for clearing the small ramp areas directly in front of the hanger doors

J-Mech · #5 08-31-2014, 03:26 PM

If you have a 108, just put a rear PTO on it and use that to drive a rear mounted blower.

Shaner · #6 08-31-2014, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech

If you have a 108, just put a rear PTO on it and use that to drive a rear mounted blower.

that would work....orrrrr....put a tiller gearbox on it, run your long belt to your tiller gear box, turn the gearbox 90 degrees and remove the pulley so the shaft is facing directly back. then find a Bolens Tube frame snow blower as they were drive shaft driven. connect the driveshaft to the tiller gear box, mount the mounts of the snow thrower to the bottom plate on the gear box where your brinly adapter would go, run a chain from your rear lift down to somewhere on the frame of the thrower....done. rear mount snow thrower.

J-Mech · #7 08-31-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaner

that would work....orrrrr....put a tiller gearbox on it, run your long belt to your tiller gear box, turn the gearbox 90 degrees and remove the pulley so the shaft is facing directly back. then find a Bolens Tube frame snow blower as they were drive shaft driven. connect the driveshaft to the tiller gear box, mount the mounts of the snow thrower to the bottom plate on the gear box where your brinly adapter would go, run a chain from your rear lift down to somewhere on the frame of the thrower....done. rear mount snow thrower.

All except for the part where he can't put a mule drive on because of his front hitch.......

drglinski · #8 08-31-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech

All except for the part where he can't put a mule drive on because of his front hitch.......

this is when PO mods show up....

OffTime · #9 08-31-2014, 06:30 PM

If gear box speed is a concern, the gear ratio on a tiller gearbox is 2:3, output being 2/3 speed of input. Those gears can be reversed to make the opposite ratio, output being 1.5 times input. OR use the gears from the blower gearbox. The blower gearbox housing is the same as the tiller gearbox housing, but the gear ratio is different.

Note: Some gearboxes have a cast iron housing and some have an aluminum housing. I'm not familiar enough with them to say if gears interchange or not and what the differences may be. Someone else here will have to fill in those details.

And let us know what you can work out on the mule drive arrangement.

Coopere · #10 08-31-2014, 08:27 PM

Mule drive should be ok in looking at my hitch, it looks as though I can drill a few holes and insert the mule drive hardware into my hitch and make the pullies work

Edit..

Did some research on rear pto, firstly parts seem difficult to find second, it's a sub standard spline also not 540rpm and rotates the wrong direction from standard rear pto seems like a lot of fab work to install a rear pto and then still have issues with direction,

I'm liking the tiller gearbox idea or find a blower like the mtd one that runs the length of the tractor with the pully underneath only issue i see with that again is direction of rotation.

If I use the tiller gear box I could twist the belt under the tractor to restore proper direction of rotation